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    Had a weird drip under the E, it was mostly on the left side but changed location. When it was finally time to drain the break in oil I actually got underneath the bike to see if I could find the source. Turns out the neutral switch was leaking. Not around the threads but through the switch itself. The oil would blow back on the frame and drip where ever it liked. I didn't know the switch could leak like that but as usual, if it could happen, it would happen to me. Luckily I had a spare so all is good now.
    mack
    79 XS 1100 SF Special
    HERMES
    original owner
    http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps6932d5df.jpg

    81 XS 1100 LH MNS
    SPICA
    http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad305/mack-055/2.jpg

    78 XS 11E
    IOTA
    https://youtu.be/wB5Jfbp6SUc
    https://youtu.be/RaI3WYHSuWA



    Have recovery trailer and shop if you breakdown in my area.
    Frankford, Ont, Canada
    613-398-6186

  • #2
    I didn't know that it made physical contact with oil. I thought it was just an electrical switch...
    Skids (Sid Hansen)

    Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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    • #3
      I don't think there's oil in the neutral switch part of the engine-- I replaced mine 2 years ago, and it was a no-leak change out.
      79 F
      Previously owned: (among others)
      1969 Harley- Davidson Rapido 125 (Aermacchi)
      1967 Suzuki X6 Hustler
      1973 Suzuki TM 125
      1979 XS1100 F
      2005 Kaw. Vulcan VN800
      1991 BMW K75

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      • #4
        I'm going to

        take mine apart but oil was leaking past the plunger and dripping out around the black mastic gasket around the screw seat. Then it dripped off the wire connector screw. Skids, oil is all over the place in that location, if the switch is faulty, the oil can get in.
        Last edited by mack; 06-25-2016, 08:13 AM.
        mack
        79 XS 1100 SF Special
        HERMES
        original owner
        http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps6932d5df.jpg

        81 XS 1100 LH MNS
        SPICA
        http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad305/mack-055/2.jpg

        78 XS 11E
        IOTA
        https://youtu.be/wB5Jfbp6SUc
        https://youtu.be/RaI3WYHSuWA



        Have recovery trailer and shop if you breakdown in my area.
        Frankford, Ont, Canada
        613-398-6186

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        • #5
          Hey Mack,

          Glad you had a spare. BTW, research shows that the OEM # 2H7-82540-00-00 has be superceded by this one, used in both boat engines, and ATVs, as well as several V-stars. 4KM-82540-00-00

          boats.net has them for only $18.18 plus S&H.

          http://www.boats.net/parts/detail/ya...540-00-00.html

          I checked the microfiche, but I can't see the engine/tranny case area where the neutral switch scews into the engine, but it does make contact with a lever that pushes against it when in the neutral position, so I would expect there to be oil there.

          BTW, here's a photo from the Tranny repairs section explaining how the tranny works, and you can see beyond the tranny case cover in the upper right corner the neutral switch screwed into the case as the END position of the shift drum. Where is screws in is an oil chamber, but when the engine is stopped, all of the oil should be down in the sump pan, so it may have been able to be removed without loosing any oil.




          T.C.
          T. C. Gresham
          81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
          79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
          History shows again and again,
          How nature points out the folly of men!

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          • #6
            Oil Pan

            nice picture. The pan has deflectors that direct oil up into the shift drum when the gears turn. It's basically an oil storm in there with the motor running. The smaller deflector channels the oil rain to the kick start gear. It's such a simple efficient system. Thanx for the tip on a replacement. I priced one out up here and if I remember it was $38.00 can
            mack
            79 XS 1100 SF Special
            HERMES
            original owner
            http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps6932d5df.jpg

            81 XS 1100 LH MNS
            SPICA
            http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad305/mack-055/2.jpg

            78 XS 11E
            IOTA
            https://youtu.be/wB5Jfbp6SUc
            https://youtu.be/RaI3WYHSuWA



            Have recovery trailer and shop if you breakdown in my area.
            Frankford, Ont, Canada
            613-398-6186

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            • #7
              Edit.......
              Last edited by bikerphil; 06-25-2016, 11:44 PM.
              2H7 (79) owned since '89
              3H3 owned since '06

              "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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              • #8
                You can put a short bolt in it"s place if need be with a brake hose crush washer, no more safety light though. The light will remain off with no ground feed.
                2H7 (79) owned since '89
                3H3 owned since '06

                "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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                • #9
                  thanx phil

                  good to know.
                  mack
                  79 XS 1100 SF Special
                  HERMES
                  original owner
                  http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps6932d5df.jpg

                  81 XS 1100 LH MNS
                  SPICA
                  http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad305/mack-055/2.jpg

                  78 XS 11E
                  IOTA
                  https://youtu.be/wB5Jfbp6SUc
                  https://youtu.be/RaI3WYHSuWA



                  Have recovery trailer and shop if you breakdown in my area.
                  Frankford, Ont, Canada
                  613-398-6186

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by TopCatGr58 View Post
                    Hey Mack,

                    Where is screws in is an oil chamber, but when the engine is stopped, all of the oil should be down in the sump pan, so it may have been able to be removed without loosing any oil.

                    T.C.
                    That is a perfect explanation TC, as always. Yo da' man!
                    Skids (Sid Hansen)

                    Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by bikerphil View Post
                      You can put a short bolt in it"s place if need be with a brake hose crush washer, no more safety light though. The light will remain off with no ground feed.
                      But then I wouldn't be able to start the bike without holding in the clutch lever. I know not all of the bike have this interlock, but some do - like the added sidestand interlock on the XJ.
                      1980 XS850SG - Sold
                      1981 XS1100LH Midnight Special (Sold) - purchased 9/29/08
                      Fully Vetterized and Dynojet Kit added, Heated Grips, Truck-Lite LED headlight, Accel Coils, Irridium plugs, TKAT Fork Brace, XS850LH Final Drive & Black SS Brake lines from Chacal.
                      Here's my web page devoted to my bike! XS/XJ User's Manuals there, and the XJ1100 Service Manual and both XS1100 Service manuals (free download!).

                      Whether you think you can, or you think you cannot - You're right.
                      -H. Ford

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                      • #12
                        But then I wouldn't be able to start the bike without holding in the clutch lever. I know not all of the bike have this interlock, but some do - like the added sidestand interlock on the XJ.
                        Bug, ANYTHING can be bypassed. Just look at some of the "hold my beer and watch this" video's
                        Ray Matteis
                        KE6NHG
                        XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
                        XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by DiverRay View Post
                          Bug, ANYTHING can be bypassed. Just look at some of the "hold my beer and watch this" video's
                          True, but I hate it when people hack stuff like that just to bypass something that could be repaired.
                          1980 XS850SG - Sold
                          1981 XS1100LH Midnight Special (Sold) - purchased 9/29/08
                          Fully Vetterized and Dynojet Kit added, Heated Grips, Truck-Lite LED headlight, Accel Coils, Irridium plugs, TKAT Fork Brace, XS850LH Final Drive & Black SS Brake lines from Chacal.
                          Here's my web page devoted to my bike! XS/XJ User's Manuals there, and the XJ1100 Service Manual and both XS1100 Service manuals (free download!).

                          Whether you think you can, or you think you cannot - You're right.
                          -H. Ford

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                          • #14
                            True, but I hate it when people hack stuff like that just to bypass something that could be repaired.
                            I understand! But the bolt/crush washer MAY get you home if the neutral switch breaks on the road. The rest was just a joke, as the "hold my beer" says it all....
                            Ray Matteis
                            KE6NHG
                            XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
                            XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by bikerphil View Post
                              You can put a short bolt in it"s place if need be with a brake hose crush washer, no more safety light though. The light will remain off with no ground feed.
                              Edit: This modification may not work on 81 Midnight Special or 82 XJ1100 as there may be a safety interlock preventing the engine from starting.
                              2H7 (79) owned since '89
                              3H3 owned since '06

                              "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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