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    it broke off. I have an extraction kit already, but still way freaked out about jacking up the threads inside. please help!!
    80' XS1100 SG "Dottie"

    79' SF carbs
    MAC 4-1
    K&N Pods
    Accel 3.0 coils
    Tarozzi fork brace
    TC fusebox

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    79' XS1100 SF (parts, will be reborn)

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  • #2
    Cover bolts

    Be best to get some liquid wrench sprayed on all the bolts and let it sit over night. Remove the cover then extract the bolt. Once the cover is off you may find you have enough left to get a grip on. Spray what's left with liquid wrench , it should help.
    mack
    79 XS 1100 SF Special
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    • #3
      Might be easy

      I broke one once. Left it that way for 10 years.

      Then when I went to shim the valves, I found that there was plenty of stud exposed to grab on it. It took very little force to spin it out because there was no load on it and it was not rusted.
      -Mike
      _________
      '79 XS1100SF 20k miles
      '80 XS1100SG 44k miles
      '81 XS1100H Venturer 35k miles
      '79 XS750SF 17k miles
      '85 Honda V65 Magna ~7k miles
      '84 Honda V65 Magna 48k miles (parts bike)
      '86 Yamaha VMAX 9k miles

      Previous: '68 Motoguzzi 600cc + '79 XS750SF 22k miles +'84 Honda V65

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      • #4
        Yeah, no worries. Get a small paor of vice grips on it, or try the double-nut trick.
        1979 XS1100F
        2H9 Mod, Truck-Lite LED Headlight, TECHNA-FIT S/S Brake Lines, Rear Air Shocks, TKAT Fork Brace, Dyna DC-I Coils, TC Fuse Block, Barnett HD Clutch Springs, Superbike Handlebars, V-Star 650 ACCT, NGK Irridium Plugs, OEM Exhaust. CNC-Cut 2nd Gear Dogs; Ported/Milled Head; Modded Airbox: 8x8 Wix Panel Filter; #137.5 Main Jet, Viper Yellow Paint, Michelin Pilot Activ F/R, Interstate AGM Battery, 14MM MC, Maier Fairing, Cree LED Fog Lights.

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        • #5
          right on, thanks guys! i'm gonna go mess with it in a little bit...
          80' XS1100 SG "Dottie"

          79' SF carbs
          MAC 4-1
          K&N Pods
          Accel 3.0 coils
          Tarozzi fork brace
          TC fusebox

          Picture update soon

          http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g4...psej6wqu9l.jpg


          79' XS1100 SF (parts, will be reborn)

          http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g4...snfgpozqn.jpeg

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          • #6
            Looks like an easy fix........remove valve cover and unscrew remaining broken allen bolt with ya' fingers.
            81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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            • #7
              Kroil is the best stuff on earth for loosening up decades of built up corrosion between a fastener and what is frozen to. It is not just a lubricant.

              Before I loosen a bolt for the first time, I spray it well and let it sit for at least an hour, sometimes longer and spray it again after the wait time.

              I started using it on my XJ650 and use it regularly on my XJ1100.
              Last edited by HalfCentury; 06-08-2016, 06:12 PM.
              82 XJ1100 - sold
              96 Honda Magna 750 - Girlfriend's bike
              2000 ZRX1100 - sold
              2003 FJR1300 - Silver rocket

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              • #8
                Hate to be the naysayer of the group, but looking at the amount of bolt still left, it looks to be the same length as what was in the valve cover. He could verify that easily by just holding the remaining bolt against the outside of the hole, and see how far down it goes.

                It looks more like it broke of in the head portion. But as has been stated, there's no load/tension on it aside from the corrosion that has formed from the 2 different metals that were joined there, the steel of the bolt, and the aluminum of the head. YET apply some penetrating stuff like what was suggested, PB- Blaster, etc. Also would suggest applying some serious HEAT like from a heat gun to it, then spritz with penetrant again, repeat a few times. THEN if there's nothing left to grab, just get a fairly smaller DRILL and start drilling into it...preferably a reverse bite/cutting bit that way once you drill a little bit into it, it can start to bite the remaining piece, and will then probably just spin/back it out of the hole!

                T.C.
                T. C. Gresham
                81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
                79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
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                • #9
                  Left Hand Bits - Best removing tool in the arsenal!

                  Originally posted by TopCatGr58 View Post
                  reverse bite/cutting bit that way once you drill a little bit into it, it can start to bite the remaining piece, and will then probably just spin/back it out of the hole!
                  Looks like a tough spot to get a drill bit access to but I agree with TC whole heartedly. The absolute best broken bolt remover in the world is a LEFT TWIST drill bit. I have a full selection and have NEVER had to resort to my kit of Easy-Outs since I acquired those bits.

                  AND, whatever they put in Kroil that stuff is incredible. I don't know where to buy it but I swipe a can off my A/C Contractor every once in a while...

                  KURT
                  Kurt Boehringer
                  Peachtree City, Georgia

                  1970 - CT70K0 - Mini-Trail
                  1978 - SR500 - Thumper
                  1979 - CT70H - Mini-Trail
                  1979 - XS1100SF - Pensacola
                  1980 - XS850SG - Rocky
                  1980 - XS1100SG - The Ugly Duck
                  1980 - XS1100SG - Mayberry Duck
                  1981 - XS1100SH - DEAD Duck Cafe'
                  1981 - XJ550 Maxim - Nancy's Mini-Max
                  1982 - XJ650 SECA - Hurricane
                  1986 - FJ1200 - Georgia Big Red
                  1992 - FZR1000 - Genesis
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                  • #10
                    You can buy Kroil from the manufacturer online. Kano labs. They ship it direct to your door. No muss. No fuss.
                    82 XJ1100 - sold
                    96 Honda Magna 750 - Girlfriend's bike
                    2000 ZRX1100 - sold
                    2003 FJR1300 - Silver rocket

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by HalfCentury View Post
                      You can buy Kroil from the manufacturer online. Kano labs. They ship it direct to your door. No muss. No fuss.
                      ........locally at the Ace or Tru-Valu hardware also.
                      81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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