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  • MadHatter4119
    Truly XSive
    • Nov 2014
    • 137
    • Baltimore, MD.

    #1

    oil filter bolt length

    I removed a oil cooler set up that was on this 79 XS 1100 Special basket case when I got it. I found a stock set up with the cover, bolt , spring and washer. I than purchased a Fram CH6002 oil filter...I put the bolt through the
    cover, put on the spring than washer...than oil filter...My problem is my bolt bottom out before the cover seals to the engine...as if the bolt was to long or
    something...What the Hey am I doing wrong ??????? Thanks
    79 XS 1100 Special "Basket Case"
  • motoman
    Master of XSology
    • Aug 2005
    • 8413
    • Grand Junction, Colorado

    #2
    Originally posted by MadHatter4119
    I removed a oil cooler set up that was on this 79 XS 1100 Special basket case when I got it. I found a stock set up with the cover, bolt , spring and washer. I than purchased a Fram CH6002 oil filter...I put the bolt through the
    cover, put on the spring than washer...than oil filter...My problem is my bolt bottom out before the cover seals to the engine...as if the bolt was to long or
    something...What the Hey am I doing wrong ??????? Thanks
    The bolt for the oil filter housing IS a special one having an o-ring groove. Not just a regular bolt will work. It is specificly made for that location.
    81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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    • bikerphil
      Master of XSology
      • Jan 2008
      • 8630
      • South Flori-DUH

      #3
      This is the correct bolt for a non-cooler setup....

      2H7 (79) owned since '89
      3H3 owned since '06

      "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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      • MadHatter4119
        Truly XSive
        • Nov 2014
        • 137
        • Baltimore, MD.

        #4
        That's a replacement bolt...I have a stock bolt...but when it bottom out...I have a 1/4 gap between the cover and engine...
        79 XS 1100 Special "Basket Case"

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        • BA80
          Doctor of XSology
          • Oct 2010
          • 9980
          • Tulsa, Ok

          #5
          I have a filter canister w/bolt on my toolbox at work and a digital caliper to measure it. I'll get those dimensions for you in the morning.

          Meantime, take your replacement bolt by itself and screw it into the engine. Will it go all the way in as far as the bolt is threaded?

          If not, check to be sure the threads in the engine case aren't boogered up.
          Greg

          Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.โ€

          โ€• Albert Einstein

          80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

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          • BA80
            Doctor of XSology
            • Oct 2010
            • 9980
            • Tulsa, Ok

            #6
            Here's a pic of a canister with a OEM bolt. Only a couple threads stick up past the mating surface. Those 2 little tabs in the foreground on the cup go back towards the oil pan and fit up in there so the cup cant turn.


            Greg

            Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.โ€

            โ€• Albert Einstein

            80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

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            • MadHatter4119
              Truly XSive
              • Nov 2014
              • 137
              • Baltimore, MD.

              #7
              I'm not sure my cover is the same as the one in the above picture...Do
              they differ with years & models between the XS11's ??? It could be just the
              picture...? I wish I was better at loading pictures here...
              79 XS 1100 Special "Basket Case"

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              • MPittma100
                XS-XJ Guru
                • Aug 2011
                • 2359
                • Atlanta, GA.

                #8
                Oil filter

                The two tabs mentioned on the filter can are most likely causing your problem. They go towards the rear of the engine and have to be clocked just right in order for the canister to mate properly with the block.
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                • MadHatter4119
                  Truly XSive
                  • Nov 2014
                  • 137
                  • Baltimore, MD.

                  #9
                  I think you are correct..Sunny and 70 degrees today...rainy and cold for the next 5 days...chance of snow Sunday...First day out spring...enough with this
                  crazy weather...I'll give it a go with this info...I'll get those tabs in their place,
                  than tighten the bolt...thanks
                  79 XS 1100 Special "Basket Case"

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                  • BA80
                    Doctor of XSology
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 9980
                    • Tulsa, Ok

                    #10
                    Originally posted by MadHatter4119
                    I'm not sure my cover is the same as the one in the above picture...Do
                    they differ with years & models between the XS11's ??? It could be just the
                    picture...? I wish I was better at loading pictures here...
                    All the cups are all the same all years, XJ too.
                    Greg

                    Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.โ€

                    โ€• Albert Einstein

                    80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

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                    • MadHatter4119
                      Truly XSive
                      • Nov 2014
                      • 137
                      • Baltimore, MD.

                      #11
                      Thanks All...
                      79 XS 1100 Special "Basket Case"

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                      • BA80
                        Doctor of XSology
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 9980
                        • Tulsa, Ok

                        #12
                        You still want me to measure that bolt or was the pic enough?
                        Greg

                        Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.โ€

                        โ€• Albert Einstein

                        80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                        The list changes.

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                        • IanDMacDonald
                          XS-XJ Super Guru
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 3917
                          • Grand Blanc & Fenton, MI

                          #13
                          I think you got him squared-away with those tabs. Common mistake.
                          1979 XS1100F
                          2H9 Mod, Truck-Lite LED Headlight, TECHNA-FIT S/S Brake Lines, Rear Air Shocks, TKAT Fork Brace, Dyna DC-I Coils, TC Fuse Block, Barnett HD Clutch Springs, Superbike Handlebars, V-Star 650 ACCT, NGK Irridium Plugs, OEM Exhaust. CNC-Cut 2nd Gear Dogs; Ported/Milled Head; Modded Airbox: 8x8 Wix Panel Filter; #137.5 Main Jet, Viper Yellow Paint, Michelin Pilot Activ F/R, Interstate AGM Battery, 14MM MC, Maier Fairing, Cree LED Fog Lights.

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                          • MadHatter4119
                            Truly XSive
                            • Nov 2014
                            • 137
                            • Baltimore, MD.

                            #14
                            Well we me...it appears its never that simple...even with the tabs lined up...
                            this piece of crap cover still won't go on...I'm getting to the end of my rope
                            with this bike...The picture of the cover above looks a little deeper than mine
                            ...I'm not sure if its the cover or the bolt...My phone ( iPhone 5 ) doesn't seem
                            to have any setting that makes the pictures smaller so i can post a picture...I
                            look below and didn't see a link below to attach a picture to this post...How do
                            I attach a picture once I figure out how to make them smaller...? I try using
                            the forum search bar...but that was a waste of time...it gave me everything but
                            how to post a picture...Crazy
                            79 XS 1100 Special "Basket Case"

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                            • Eastcoaster
                              XSive Maximus
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 500
                              • oceancity NJ

                              #15
                              I gotta ask

                              I gotta ask but I am sure you did not put the bolt that mounts the oil cooler back in?
                              82 XJ1100J
                              81 Venturer
                              Newly acquired Aches N Pains collection

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