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    Looking for the approximate weight of the engine out of the frame I have to get one in my pick up and wanted to know about what I would be dealing with.
    Thanks!
    82 XJ1100J
    81 Venturer
    Newly acquired Aches N Pains collection

  • #2
    weight

    It's only a bit over a couple hundred pounds, but it's awkward as hell. If you have a friend and a couple metal poles, you can slip the poles through the front upper and rear motor mount holes. This will make it easier to load and unload and if you clamp the poles in place it will keep the motore from tipping over. The weight can be reduced though by removing the head, clutch basket, middle drive, starter, carbs and generator. Your wife or girl friend would then be able to easily assist in the lifting.
    Last edited by mack; 12-04-2015, 09:23 PM.
    mack
    79 XS 1100 SF Special
    HERMES
    original owner
    http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps6932d5df.jpg

    81 XS 1100 LH MNS
    SPICA
    http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad305/mack-055/2.jpg

    78 XS 11E
    IOTA
    https://youtu.be/wB5Jfbp6SUc
    https://youtu.be/RaI3WYHSuWA



    Have recovery trailer and shop if you breakdown in my area.
    Frankford, Ont, Canada
    613-398-6186

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    • #3
      Thought it was closer to 300#.
      Greg

      Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

      ― Albert Einstein

      80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

      The list changes.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Eastcoaster View Post
        Looking for the approximate weight of the engine out of the frame I have to get one in my pick up and wanted to know about what I would be dealing with.
        Thanks!
        You'll need help unless trbig is there.
        Greg

        Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

        ― Albert Einstein

        80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

        The list changes.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by BA80 View Post
          Thought it was closer to 300#.
          Actually BA80 IS really close. Motor and tranny being 280lbs. is STILL a narly heave.......of which I'll pass on lifting more than two inches. As Greg stated, unless your trbig.
          81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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          • #6
            Weight

            I have never had one out of the bike . I picked up the 1979 XS110 Standard - 1 owner on the for sale site and it comes with an engine.

            Its a long trip and I wanted to have an idea what I will be dealing with. I have nowhere near the super strength of Trbig.

            Thanks!
            Gordon
            82 XJ1100J
            81 Venturer
            Newly acquired Aches N Pains collection

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            • #7
              Be Careful!

              Originally posted by motoman View Post
              Motor and tranny being 280lbs. is STILL a narly heave.......D.
              Gordon,
              I purchased an XS11 motor last week and it took three men to get it in the trunk of my car (a comparable height +/- to a pickup bed). I took some GOOD rope of about 1/2" diameter with me and ran it through the motor mounting holes front and rear (remove the rubber isolators) which provided very nice lifting handles There was really no good place to get a sure lifting grip on the motor without it..

              That motor was every bit of 280# as motorman indicated. Take it from a guy that had back surgery.....Get the extra help!!!! Even if you have to slip the next door neighbor a $20 for 5 minutes of his time..... FIND THE EXTRA SET(s) of HANDS!!!

              Very Sincerely,
              KURT
              Kurt Boehringer
              Peachtree City, Georgia

              1970 - CT70K0 - Mini-Trail
              1978 - SR500 - Thumper
              1979 - CT70H - Mini-Trail
              1979 - XS1100SF - Pensacola
              1980 - XS850SG - Rocky
              1980 - XS1100SG - The Ugly Duck
              1980 - XS1100SG - Mayberry Duck
              1981 - XS1100SH - DEAD Duck Cafe'
              1981 - XJ550 Maxim - Nancy's Mini-Max
              1982 - XJ650 SECA - Hurricane
              1986 - FJ1200 - Georgia Big Red
              1992 - FZR1000 - Genesis
              2016 - FJR1300A - Montgomery

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              • #8
                I was always told (Never weighed one) that it was only 225 pounds. I have joked in the past with my neighbor, who had a GSXR 1000 that my bike sitting there with the motor out still weighed what his complete bike weighs. lol.
                Last edited by trbig; 12-05-2015, 08:45 AM.
                Try your hardest to be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.

                You can live to be 100, as long as you give up everything that would make you want to live to be 100!

                Current bikes:
                '06 Suzuki DR650
                *'82 XJ1100 with the 1179 kit. "Mad Maxim"
                '82 XJ1100 Completely stock fixer-upper
                '82 XJ1100 Bagger fixer-upper
                '82 XJ1100 Motor/frame and lots of boxes of parts
                '82 XJ1100 Parts bike
                '81 XS1100 Special
                '81 YZ250
                '80 XS850 Special
                '80 XR100
                *Crashed/Totalled, still own

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                • #9
                  Too much

                  My guess would be about 225 too ,
                  A ball buster to even try by yourself , A bit of a struggle for two guys,
                  Usually nice and greasy too, to add to the fun !!!
                  78standard,79 & 80 Specials; 2 x 650 Maxims; 4 x RD350's; yz450; 2 x Honda tlr's;2x jt1 mini.

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                  • #10
                    Weight

                    Here’s the weight broken down, I used a digital and analog scale to determine the weight of each component to reduce error as much as possible. All measurements are imperial
                    Crankshaft -23
                    Clutch (complete)-8
                    Mid drive-11
                    Jugs- 14
                    Head (bare)-20
                    Upper/lower cases with shift drum , bearings and kick start mech. installed-39
                    Starter-4
                    Generator-6
                    Con-rods and psitons-4
                    Drive axel-5
                    Main axel-3
                    Primary shaft- 8
                    Middle driven gear and oil pump-3
                    Clutch cover and misc. parts- 4
                    Rotor-4
                    Hyvo and cam chain-2
                    Cams and valve train components-5
                    Bank of 78 carbs -6
                    Total weight here is approx. 170 lbs. This leaves 30 lbs for 4 quarts of fluid, cover fasteners, gaskets, shifter, timing cover and oil pan.
                    It seems heavier because of how awkward the weight distribution, and the difficulty in transferring the mass into the frame. I would rule against the rope through the motor mounts method of movement. Go with the hollow metal tubes through the motor mount holes. Use the lowers front and rear if possible to provide easy of lift and stability in the truck bed. Ropes hurt the hands and the motor will shift due to the weight distribution inequity. An easy two man job.
                    mack
                    79 XS 1100 SF Special
                    HERMES
                    original owner
                    http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps6932d5df.jpg

                    81 XS 1100 LH MNS
                    SPICA
                    http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad305/mack-055/2.jpg

                    78 XS 11E
                    IOTA
                    https://youtu.be/wB5Jfbp6SUc
                    https://youtu.be/RaI3WYHSuWA



                    Have recovery trailer and shop if you breakdown in my area.
                    Frankford, Ont, Canada
                    613-398-6186

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by mack View Post
                      Here’s the weight broken down, I used a digital and analog scale to determine the weight of each component to reduce error as much as possible. All measurements are imperial
                      Crankshaft -23
                      Clutch (complete)-8
                      Mid drive-11
                      Jugs- 14
                      Head (bare)-20
                      Upper/lower cases with shift drum , bearings and kick start mech. installed-39
                      Starter-4
                      Generator-6
                      Con-rods and psitons-4
                      Drive axel-5
                      Main axel-3
                      Primary shaft- 8
                      Middle driven gear and oil pump-3
                      Clutch cover and misc. parts- 4
                      Rotor-4
                      Hyvo and cam chain-2
                      Cams and valve train components-5
                      Bank of 78 carbs -6
                      Total weight here is approx. 170 lbs. This leaves 30 lbs for 4 quarts of fluid, cover fasteners, gaskets, shifter, timing cover and oil pan.
                      It seems heavier because of how awkward the weight distribution, and the difficulty in transferring the mass into the frame. I would rule against the rope through the motor mounts method of movement. Go with the hollow metal tubes through the motor mount holes. Use the lowers front and rear if possible to provide easy of lift and stability in the truck bed. Ropes hurt the hands and the motor will shift due to the weight distribution inequity. An easy two man job.
                      They built them lighter for u'all northerners.
                      81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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                      • #12
                        Lol

                        Yes Motoman, I've heard that everything gets heavier the closer to the equator you get! It's that damn gravity!
                        mack
                        79 XS 1100 SF Special
                        HERMES
                        original owner
                        http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps6932d5df.jpg

                        81 XS 1100 LH MNS
                        SPICA
                        http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad305/mack-055/2.jpg

                        78 XS 11E
                        IOTA
                        https://youtu.be/wB5Jfbp6SUc
                        https://youtu.be/RaI3WYHSuWA



                        Have recovery trailer and shop if you breakdown in my area.
                        Frankford, Ont, Canada
                        613-398-6186

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                        • #13
                          Weight seems to be in direct relation to how many people you have to help you. I know when my XS runs out of gas and I have to push it (rare occurrence thankfully), it instantly gains about 300 lbs.
                          When a 10 isn't enough, get a 11. 80g Hardbagger

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                          • #14
                            weight

                            Manage abilty is also directly inversely proportional to our age.
                            mack
                            79 XS 1100 SF Special
                            HERMES
                            original owner
                            http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps6932d5df.jpg

                            81 XS 1100 LH MNS
                            SPICA
                            http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad305/mack-055/2.jpg

                            78 XS 11E
                            IOTA
                            https://youtu.be/wB5Jfbp6SUc
                            https://youtu.be/RaI3WYHSuWA



                            Have recovery trailer and shop if you breakdown in my area.
                            Frankford, Ont, Canada
                            613-398-6186

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Originally posted by mack View Post
                              Manage abilty is also directly inversely proportional to our age.

                              Agreed. 10 years ago the engines only weighed about 50 pounds.
                              Try your hardest to be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.

                              You can live to be 100, as long as you give up everything that would make you want to live to be 100!

                              Current bikes:
                              '06 Suzuki DR650
                              *'82 XJ1100 with the 1179 kit. "Mad Maxim"
                              '82 XJ1100 Completely stock fixer-upper
                              '82 XJ1100 Bagger fixer-upper
                              '82 XJ1100 Motor/frame and lots of boxes of parts
                              '82 XJ1100 Parts bike
                              '81 XS1100 Special
                              '81 YZ250
                              '80 XS850 Special
                              '80 XR100
                              *Crashed/Totalled, still own

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