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  • BowlingSS
    XStremely XSive
    • Apr 2015
    • 398
    • Lawrenceville, GA.

    #16
    Originally posted by MPittma100
    Thanks for the links. I am sure my bike will need some. Will it work on chrome that has rust?

    Bill
    1980 XS1100 SG
    Jardine Spaghetti with Harley Mufflers

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    • 3Phase
      XS-XJ Super Guru
      • May 2008
      • 5529
      • Simi Valley, CA

      #17
      Yep, it'll clean the rusty metal under the chrome, then it will eventually rust again but it will stay clean for a while unless you like to ride on the beach at Daytona.

      Evapo-Rust is at Harbor Freight (two isles over from the cheap Chinese torque wrenches ), Lowe's, True Value, AutoZone, Advance Auto, O'Reilly's, Pep Boys, think of another place and they probably have it too.

      The 'Metal-Rescue' version is at Home Depot.

      .
      -- Scott
      _____

      2004 ST1300A: No name... yet
      1982 XJ1100J: "Baby" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
      1980 XS1100G: "Columbo" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
      1979 XS1100SF: "Bush" W.I.P.
      1979 XS1100F: parts
      2018 Heritage Softail Classic 117 FLHCS SE: "Nanuk" It's DEAD, it's not just resting. It is an EX cycle.

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      • jetmechmarty
        Master of XSology
        • Nov 2003
        • 7761
        • Coldwater, Mississippi

        #18
        Metal Rescue is in most Home Depot stores. They have it here in Dahlonega, so they must have it in Lawrenceville. It's magic!
        Marty (in Mississippi)
        XS1100SG
        XS650SK
        XS650SH
        XS650G
        XS6502F
        XS650E

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        • DAVINCI
          XS-XJ Guru
          • Jan 2011
          • 1048
          • Cedar Mountain, NC

          #19
          OK, gotta chime in here, seems this thread has gotten a bit off topic. Ben, you said it happens HOT? Then I would look at the torque on the starter mounting bolts.

          JMHO
          Former owner, but I have NO PARTS LEFT!

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          • madmax-im
            Master of XSology
            • Sep 2007
            • 6751
            • Southern Comfort...Wendell NC

            #20
            Originally posted by DAVINCI
            OK, gotta chime in here, seems this thread has gotten a bit off topic. Ben, you said it happens HOT? Then I would look at the torque on the starter mounting bolts.

            JMHO
            yes cold theres no issue...its not the solenoid...starter mounting bolts huh?....i have had some other family matters come up so I have been distracted away from the bike..but hopefully by the weekend we'll get this sorted
            1980 XS650G Special-Two
            1993 Honda ST1100

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            • DAVINCI
              XS-XJ Guru
              • Jan 2011
              • 1048
              • Cedar Mountain, NC

              #21
              Two (3?) 10mm bolts attach it to the engine. BTW, I added an additional ground cable there, it's a design weak point.
              Last edited by DAVINCI; 07-08-2015, 08:32 AM.
              Former owner, but I have NO PARTS LEFT!

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              • madmax-im
                Master of XSology
                • Sep 2007
                • 6751
                • Southern Comfort...Wendell NC

                #22
                Originally posted by DAVINCI
                Two 10mm bolts attach it to the engine. BTW, I added an additional ground cable there, it's a design weak point.
                I have never touched the starter..you were the last person in there...so if everything was torqued alright to begin with would the bolts become loose over time?
                1980 XS650G Special-Two
                1993 Honda ST1100

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                • MPittma100
                  XS-XJ Guru
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 2359
                  • Atlanta, GA.

                  #23
                  Rust

                  Originally posted by BowlingSS
                  Thanks for the links. I am sure my bike will need some. Will it work on chrome that has rust?

                  Bill
                  Part of the instructions include rinsing with water when you have removed the part from the chemical. Then immediately rinse with alcohol and dry. This is supposed to stop the flash rust.

                  There is another chemical (Dry Coat) that is recommended to use after the rust remover to prevent rust from coming back.

                  1981 XS1100H Venturer
                  K&N Air Filter
                  ACCT
                  Custom Paint by Deitz
                  Geezer Rectifier/Regulator
                  Chacal Stainless Steel Braided Brake Lines
                  Chrome Front Rotor & Caliper Covers
                  Stebel Nautilus Horn
                  EBC Front Rotors
                  Limie Accent Moves On In 2015

                  Mike

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                  • BowlingSS
                    XStremely XSive
                    • Apr 2015
                    • 398
                    • Lawrenceville, GA.

                    #24
                    Originally posted by MPittma100
                    Part of the instructions include rinsing with water when you have removed the part from the chemical. Then immediately rinse with alcohol and dry. This is supposed to stop the flash rust.

                    There is another chemical (Dry Coat) that is recommended to use after the rust remover to prevent rust from coming back.

                    http://www.amazon.com/Workshop-Hero-...3QGHJX58VDWJA1
                    Thanks. I just ordered some of each.

                    Bill
                    1980 XS1100 SG
                    Jardine Spaghetti with Harley Mufflers

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                    • 3Phase
                      XS-XJ Super Guru
                      • May 2008
                      • 5529
                      • Simi Valley, CA

                      #25
                      More ideas for hot start problems:

                      Worn or dirty brushes
                      High mica and/or a worn commutator.
                      The starter bearings are worn and the armature is dragging/binding on the stator when it's hot.

                      .
                      -- Scott
                      _____

                      2004 ST1300A: No name... yet
                      1982 XJ1100J: "Baby" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                      1980 XS1100G: "Columbo" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                      1979 XS1100SF: "Bush" W.I.P.
                      1979 XS1100F: parts
                      2018 Heritage Softail Classic 117 FLHCS SE: "Nanuk" It's DEAD, it's not just resting. It is an EX cycle.

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                      • mlew
                        XStremely XSive
                        • Jun 2005
                        • 226
                        • Apex , NC

                        #26
                        We got it fixed this evening. A combination of dirty starter button and starter relay contacts. We had to take the relay apart and clean/polish the contacts, same for the starter button. Works every time now. We spent more time shooting the breeze in the shop, it was a good evening.
                        Slow down and enjoy life. If you are in that much of a hurry, you should have left eariler.
                        Current rides:
                        80 XS1100SG
                        82 JX1100
                        83 Venture Royale
                        86 V-Max

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                        • madmax-im
                          Master of XSology
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 6751
                          • Southern Comfort...Wendell NC

                          #27
                          yes well almost as much time yakkin'...rode her the 35 miles back home and she was hummin' all the way...the reroute of the clutch cable and lubing it really improved the clutch feel...Thers no finer feelin than when your bike is running right and you're crusing down the road cooling off in the late evening air....ommmmm
                          Thankyou Mark...
                          1980 XS650G Special-Two
                          1993 Honda ST1100

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