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  • Jeffintampa
    XStremely XSive
    • Apr 2011
    • 344
    • Zephyrhills, Florida

    #1

    Scored a carb syn tool

    Hi a friend at church gave me "something he thought I could use"! It is a 4 tube with balls sync tool. Messing around I put it on carb 4 and it went to half way up and sat there shuddering.

    I want to warm the bike up (wife is napping lol) can I just hook it up and bring them all to match carb 3? Book says something like get 1 and 2 the same, 3-4 the same then take 1-2 to match 3-4.
    Bike History:1980 XS 1100 special current bike
    1980 XS 850 special wife sold
  • brcree
    XStremely XSive
    • Mar 2010
    • 388
    • S.C.

    #2
    carb cync...

    Go by the book man....and yes mid way up . One carb. should be factory set as I remember, I might be wrong on that.
    At this time:
    1985 Goldwing Innr.
    1976 cb 750 cafe racer
    2007 vtx 1300
    81 sx 1100 s h
    81 sx 400 special

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    • DiverRay
      Moderator
      • Nov 2004
      • 7597
      • Star, IDAHO

      #3
      3 is the one you sync to. Don't forget to adjust the idle mixture screws, then recheck the sync. It will have to bike running MUCH better once you do.
      Ray Matteis
      KE6NHG
      XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
      XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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      • brcree
        XStremely XSive
        • Mar 2010
        • 388
        • S.C.

        #4
        carb sync

        X2 with Ray...just make sure you don't screw the air mix screws down to tight...the tips will break off and its a muthah to fix!
        At this time:
        1985 Goldwing Innr.
        1976 cb 750 cafe racer
        2007 vtx 1300
        81 sx 1100 s h
        81 sx 400 special

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        • Prisoner6
          XS-XJ Guru
          • Aug 2013
          • 1184
          • Phoenix, AZ

          #5
          Hey, Jeff -

          Are your carbs already clean inside?

          If so ... when adjusting the idle mixture screws, start with 1.5 to 2 turns out from lightly seated.

          Use that as a base starting point, and adjust to highest vacuum from there.

          1.5 to 2 turns out is a somewhat lean starting point, but it seems to work well for most ...
          Marco

          Current bikes:
          1979 Yamaha XS Eleven Special (SF)
          1979 Honda CBX
          2002 Kawasaki ZRX1200R

          Rest in Peace, Don Glardon (DGXSER) 1966-2014
          WE MISS YOU, DON

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          • DiverRay
            Moderator
            • Nov 2004
            • 7597
            • Star, IDAHO

            #6
            IF the bike is already running, just start from there! Start from 1, or 4, and adjust the mixture for highest idle. Then move on to the next carb in line and repeat. Remember, just VERY SMALL adjustments, about 1/16 of a turn or less at a time.
            Ray Matteis
            KE6NHG
            XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
            XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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            • Radioguylogs
              XS-XJ Guru
              • Nov 2012
              • 1933
              • Presque Isle, MI

              #7
              Idle Adjustment

              I have an easy time syncing with vacuum gauges, but I can not get the idle speed or the vacuum gauges to respond when I adjust the idle screws. Nothing changes as I adjust the screws.

              So for now, I am counting the turns as I back them out. IRRC, I think I put them at 1.5, or whatever was prevailing discussion here on CH11 for an SF.

              I have been waiting and watching for a bolt of lightning (or the right thread) to enlighten me more.

              Bike runs and idles great now,... just always like things to be tweaked to the best possible level.

              What am I missing?
              -Mike
              _________
              '79 XS1100SF 20k miles
              '80 XS1100SG 44k miles
              '81 XS1100H Venturer 35k miles
              '79 XS750SF 17k miles
              '85 Honda V65 Magna ~7k miles
              '84 Honda V65 Magna 48k miles (parts bike)
              '86 Yamaha VMAX 9k miles

              Previous: '68 Motoguzzi 600cc + '79 XS750SF 22k miles +'84 Honda V65

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              • DiverRay
                Moderator
                • Nov 2004
                • 7597
                • Star, IDAHO

                #8
                You need a GOOD EAR, or a GOOD TACH to notice the difference. The vacuum gauge WILL show the difference, but you need to adjust slightly, wait for 15 seconds, look, and adjust again. Just a slower process.
                Ray Matteis
                KE6NHG
                XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
                XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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                • Jeffintampa
                  XStremely XSive
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 344
                  • Zephyrhills, Florida

                  #9
                  what it showed



                  4 is pegged up. I turned the adjusting screw between 3-4 a half a turn tighter on clockwise and all it seemed to do was raise the idle.
                  Bike History:1980 XS 1100 special current bike
                  1980 XS 850 special wife sold

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                  • Jeffintampa
                    XStremely XSive
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 344
                    • Zephyrhills, Florida

                    #10
                    [/IMG]
                    Bike History:1980 XS 1100 special current bike
                    1980 XS 850 special wife sold

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                    • Jeffintampa
                      XStremely XSive
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 344
                      • Zephyrhills, Florida

                      #11
                      [IMG][/IMG]
                      Bike History:1980 XS 1100 special current bike
                      1980 XS 850 special wife sold

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                      • Jeffintampa
                        XStremely XSive
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 344
                        • Zephyrhills, Florida

                        #12
                        [IMG][/IMG]
                        Bike History:1980 XS 1100 special current bike
                        1980 XS 850 special wife sold

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                        • Jeffintampa
                          XStremely XSive
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 344
                          • Zephyrhills, Florida

                          #13
                          got it to here

                          Seems better? I could turn the 4 screw and did indeed take it in about a turn, went to 1 and let it back a tad and this is were I am at. [IMG][/IMG]
                          Bike History:1980 XS 1100 special current bike
                          1980 XS 850 special wife sold

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                          • SFerinTEXAS
                            XSive Maximus
                            • Jun 2006
                            • 876

                            #14
                            maybe good idea to check calibration on your tool. I. E. check each line to the same vac source.
                            79SF
                            XJ11
                            78E

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                            • DiverRay
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2004
                              • 7597
                              • Star, IDAHO

                              #15
                              I. E. check each line to the same vac source.
                              +1 on that! First thing is get three "Y" or "T" connectors, some extra tubing, and put all 4 to the same carb port, then verify they are all the same. After that, you KNOW it's correct. I do the same on my gauges about twice a year, as I only use them about 6 times a year lately.
                              Ray Matteis
                              KE6NHG
                              XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
                              XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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