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  • Studs or Bolts?

    I could install new (longer) exhaust studs and use the new elongated nuts I bought, or use SHCS. Opinions?
    1979 XS1100F
    2H9 Mod, Truck-Lite LED Headlight, TECHNA-FIT S/S Brake Lines, Rear Air Shocks, TKAT Fork Brace, Dyna DC-I Coils, TC Fuse Block, Barnett HD Clutch Springs, Superbike Handlebars, V-Star 650 ACCT, NGK Irridium Plugs, OEM Exhaust. CNC-Cut 2nd Gear Dogs; Ported/Milled Head; Modded Airbox: 8x8 Wix Panel Filter; #137.5 Main Jet, Viper Yellow Paint, Michelin Pilot Activ F/R, Interstate AGM Battery, 14MM MC, Maier Fairing, Cree LED Fog Lights.

  • #2
    Just posted on your other thread. DO NOT USE BOLTS!
    Ray Matteis
    KE6NHG
    XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
    XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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    • #3
      Okey dokey. I'll head to Auto Zone in the morning and see what my options are. If not, Ace sells studs. Just want something longer, so I never have to fight with it again.
      1979 XS1100F
      2H9 Mod, Truck-Lite LED Headlight, TECHNA-FIT S/S Brake Lines, Rear Air Shocks, TKAT Fork Brace, Dyna DC-I Coils, TC Fuse Block, Barnett HD Clutch Springs, Superbike Handlebars, V-Star 650 ACCT, NGK Irridium Plugs, OEM Exhaust. CNC-Cut 2nd Gear Dogs; Ported/Milled Head; Modded Airbox: 8x8 Wix Panel Filter; #137.5 Main Jet, Viper Yellow Paint, Michelin Pilot Activ F/R, Interstate AGM Battery, 14MM MC, Maier Fairing, Cree LED Fog Lights.

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      • #4
        Hardware stores sell the studs and my experience is they are better the ones from auto stores seem to rust and seize and they only had kits when I was there. I suggest bestbuy or ACE hardware or the dealer.
        To fix the problem one should not make more assumptions than the minimum needed.

        Rodan
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khm6...liHntN91DHjHiS
        1980 G Silverbird
        Original Yamaha Fairfing and Bags
        1198 Overbore kit
        Grizzly 660 ACCT
        Barnett Clutch Springs
        R1 Clutch Fiber Plates
        122.5 Main Jets
        ACCT Mod
        Mac 4-2 Flare Tips
        Antivibe Bar ends
        Rear trunk add-on
        http://s1184.photobucket.com/albums/z329/viperron1/

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        • #5
          Ray,

          What is the issue with using bolts? The PO used SHCS and I kept them as is.

          Jamie

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          • #6
            The only issue I see is the stress it puts on the cylinder head threads everytime the exhaust comes off (for me, it comes off every year).
            1979 XS1100F
            2H9 Mod, Truck-Lite LED Headlight, TECHNA-FIT S/S Brake Lines, Rear Air Shocks, TKAT Fork Brace, Dyna DC-I Coils, TC Fuse Block, Barnett HD Clutch Springs, Superbike Handlebars, V-Star 650 ACCT, NGK Irridium Plugs, OEM Exhaust. CNC-Cut 2nd Gear Dogs; Ported/Milled Head; Modded Airbox: 8x8 Wix Panel Filter; #137.5 Main Jet, Viper Yellow Paint, Michelin Pilot Activ F/R, Interstate AGM Battery, 14MM MC, Maier Fairing, Cree LED Fog Lights.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by sprocketman View Post
              Ray,

              What is the issue with using bolts? The PO used SHCS and I kept them as is.

              Jamie
              With a stud, you can get the maximum amount of thread engagement into the head; the stud is threaded in until it bottoms. You can't do that with a bolt, and the risk of pulling the threads out of the aluminum head are much higher.
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              • #8
                I have one xs11 standard with Jardine 4-1's and there is clearance only for a bolt rather than a stud and nut at one location. I didn't really much like it, but you are only mashing the crush washers and not bearing down with much torque.
                Skids (Sid Hansen)

                Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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                • #9
                  I recently changed out my exhaust on my 79 Special from an old rusty 4 into 1 header to some nice new Mac 4 into 2 flare tip chrome pipes. Whoever had installed the header had used bolts and many washers to mount them to the head. They had been torqued so tight that the flanges were bending in. When I took them out I found that only about half an inch of thread was in the head. Lucky they hadn't stripped out. For the new exhaust I went to my local auto parts store and got new studs, nuts and lock washers. Like Crazy Steve says, much better. I screwed the studs into the head right to the bottom before mounting the exhaust.
                  Graham in Surrey, B.C., Canada

                  1979 XS1100 Special.

                  Mac 4 into 2 chrome exhaust.
                  Dyna high performance coils.
                  Drilled air box.
                  K&N air filter.
                  Pics https://www.dropbox.com/sh/4tpyuurw3...XjCLWeTVa?dl=0

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                  • #10
                    Is there room in the head to helicoil it? That would eliminate the issue with bolts.
                    -- Clint
                    1979 XS1100F - bought for $500 in 1989

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                    • #11
                      Yes, I have a helicoil in my number 4 cylinder.
                      1979 XS1100F
                      2H9 Mod, Truck-Lite LED Headlight, TECHNA-FIT S/S Brake Lines, Rear Air Shocks, TKAT Fork Brace, Dyna DC-I Coils, TC Fuse Block, Barnett HD Clutch Springs, Superbike Handlebars, V-Star 650 ACCT, NGK Irridium Plugs, OEM Exhaust. CNC-Cut 2nd Gear Dogs; Ported/Milled Head; Modded Airbox: 8x8 Wix Panel Filter; #137.5 Main Jet, Viper Yellow Paint, Michelin Pilot Activ F/R, Interstate AGM Battery, 14MM MC, Maier Fairing, Cree LED Fog Lights.

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