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  • #16
    That connector Phil pointed out had me broken down on the way to XS East 2013. Sprayed it with contact cleaner and that was that.

    Here's ace troubleshooter, Brent, getting to the bottom of it in Franklin, NC where my bike stopped running. I had the same symptoms described here.


    Check that kill switch and associated circuit.
    Marty (in Mississippi)
    XS1100SG
    XS650SK
    XS650SH
    XS650G
    XS6502F
    XS650E

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    • #17
      Originally posted by jetmechmarty View Post
      No. It became another issue while we were troubleshooting. I went to jiggle the ignition wire and it came out. I won't be having that issue anymore.
      OK, that answer was about as vague as could be. Was it or wasn't it? Have you had the crank/ no start issue since?
      Greg

      Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

      ― Albert Einstein

      80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by BA80 View Post
        OK, that answer was about as vague as could be. Was it or wasn't it? Have you had the crank/ no start issue since?
        Greg,
        My no start issue in Sept at the Iron Horse was caused by broken insulation on my pick-up coil repair. Repositioning those wires got me going that morning and a blob of RTV has kept it going so far. You helped me get there and thanks for that. During the troubleshooting no spark I pulled on the ignition wire at the fuse box. It came out. So, that was just another thing that I had to fix, but not the original problem. I still need to do a permanent fix under the left cover, or I'll be going through the same thing. Rather than an open wire, it was a short to ground.

        Here's the scene. Me and Greg troubleshooting with and audience.
        Marty (in Mississippi)
        XS1100SG
        XS650SK
        XS650SH
        XS650G
        XS6502F
        XS650E

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        • #19
          I had a wire that goes to the ignition fuse right where the crimp is go bad and the intermittent problem about drove me nuts. My first condition was I could crank the bike one time and if it did not stay running and I tried to start again it would not start till I turned the switch off and back on. Everything metered out fine both with ohm meter and with volt meter. It only lost connection when I hit the start switch and all you would get is the first click of the relay and then would not hold. I spent many hours chasing this till one day just before the south east rally it became a solid no start condition and would not keep running after I took off jumper wire to power the TCI. Since the fuse block are is a known area for problems I suggest a jumper out of the ignition fuse all the way to the next condition to eliminate your hair turning as grey as mine did. Remember any wire could have this type problem in the self hold path and have like a 1 ohm connection and you see 12 volts potential and as soon as you need power it looses connection.
          To fix the problem one should not make more assumptions than the minimum needed.

          Rodan
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          • #20
            Originally posted by bikerphil View Post
            Check the kill/start switch connector under the tank, the pins in that type connector stretch out and will reduce the voltage to the TCI/solenoid and could cause your issue. I just went thru this with my 79F a couple weeks ago. I eliminated that lousy connector with butt splice connectors, runs nice and strong/dependable now. GL
            That is good to know. Another gremlin to eliminate.
            Skids (Sid Hansen)

            Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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            • #21
              Eureka !!!!

              Congratulations Biker Phil..You win the prize...The connector from the right handlebar switch to the main harness WAS the problem..Usually the problem would occur within a mile or two from my house....I just got back from a 25 mile ride ...all is well...I also did check all else that had been mentioned ...THANKS to all !!
              78standard,79 & 80 Specials; 2 x 650 Maxims; 4 x RD350's; yz450; 2 x Honda tlr's;2x jt1 mini.

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              • #22
                Glad you got it figured out Joe, happy that I was able to help you.
                2H7 (79) owned since '89
                3H3 owned since '06

                "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by natemoen View Post
                  You say this as though it is a bad idea to use dielectric grease... but a proper conception is not effected by it
                  So that's why Greg has so many kids! He was using dielectric grease for birth control?

                  Sorry, carry on with helping with his Magic Smoke problems. lol
                  Try your hardest to be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.

                  You can live to be 100, as long as you give up everything that would make you want to live to be 100!

                  Current bikes:
                  '06 Suzuki DR650
                  *'82 XJ1100 with the 1179 kit. "Mad Maxim"
                  '82 XJ1100 Completely stock fixer-upper
                  '82 XJ1100 Bagger fixer-upper
                  '82 XJ1100 Motor/frame and lots of boxes of parts
                  '82 XJ1100 Parts bike
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by trbig View Post
                    So that's why Greg has so many kids! He was using dielectric grease for birth control?

                    Sorry, carry on with helping with his Magic Smoke problems. lol
                    Not good for birth control Bigelow but sure made the connections good. SA
                    Greg

                    Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                    ― Albert Einstein

                    80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                    The list changes.

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