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  • #61
    If you look in my signature you'll see what I ride. I run 1 size over in both mains and pilots and my bike runs great. I could probably go 2 sizes and get a little better performance but I don't want to get to the point that I'm getting terrible gas mileage.

    I make a lot of long trips and gas is expensive.
    Greg

    Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

    ― Albert Einstein

    80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

    The list changes.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by BA80 View Post
      If you look in my signature you'll see what I ride. I run 1 size over in both mains and pilots and my bike runs great. I could probably go 2 sizes and get a little better performance but I don't want to get to the point that I'm getting terrible gas mileage.

      I make a lot of long trips and gas is expensive.
      I can't see if you are running pod filters or not...
      I have that same Pink Floyd poster hanging directly to my right, right now!

      If you dont have pods, then it seems like I should get larger than one over pilot jets... becasue I DO have pods, and more open exhaust than you.
      Have:
      1994 FZR600
      1982 XJ1100

      Had:
      1996 YZF600R
      2001 Honda xr125
      Suzuki race 80
      Honda PW 50
      Etc.

      Getting:
      1977 DT400

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      • #63
        Nope, no pods. I trust the Yammi engineers. No complaints here.

        I only have a Mac exhaust because the stock sets are getting pretty scarce and priced about the same as a new Mac. New always lasts longer.

        Cool poster huh? It's my 16 nyear old daughters. She loves old rock. Crazy about the Beatles.
        Greg

        Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

        ― Albert Einstein

        80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

        The list changes.

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        • #64
          BTW, if your gonna run pods it's no big deal at all to pull those carbs and swap out jets. Start small and work your way up to the best combo.
          Greg

          Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

          ― Albert Einstein

          80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

          The list changes.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by BA80 View Post
            Nope, no pods. I trust the Yammi engineers. No complaints here.

            I only have a Mac exhaust because the stock sets are getting pretty scarce and priced about the same as a new Mac. New always lasts longer.

            Cool poster huh? It's my 16 nyear old daughters. She loves old rock. Crazy about the Beatles.
            I'm a HUGE fan of 60's and 70's music, and old blues, even 20's and 30's stuff, and old soul... and old, well yeah I like music, a lot.

            I have a set of pretty decent xj mufflers if you are interested?
            Have:
            1994 FZR600
            1982 XJ1100

            Had:
            1996 YZF600R
            2001 Honda xr125
            Suzuki race 80
            Honda PW 50
            Etc.

            Getting:
            1977 DT400

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Dylano* View Post
              I'm a HUGE fan of 60's and 70's music, and old blues, even 20's and 30's stuff, and old soul... and old, well yeah I like music, a lot.

              I have a set of pretty decent xj mufflers if you are interested?
              I was a teen ager in the 60's and 70's. People tell me I'm stuck in the past.

              I'm NOT stuck, I just choose to remain.

              This AWFUL new stuff that repeats the SAME line and the same guitar riff OVER AND OVER AND OVER............it must have taken the all of 20 minutes to write a song. The best stuff is the remakes of the old stuff but it ends up butchered too.

              Yeah, I'm an old hippy and I don't know what to do. Ha ha..
              Greg

              Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

              ― Albert Einstein

              80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

              The list changes.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Dylano* View Post
                It is $16 for all 4 (free shipping)

                in the description it says "Brand: Mikuni"

                If I recall correctly they came looking identicle to the pics. 2-2-2-2 pattern
                They'll all say that, meaning Mikuni style. If it ain't in a genuine Mikuni packaging or have the curly Mikuni logo on them, guarentee they ain'y Genuine Mikuni.
                81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by BA80 View Post
                  I was a teen ager in the 60's and 70's. People tell me I'm stuck in the past.

                  I'm NOT stuck, I just choose to remain.

                  This AWFUL new stuff that repeats the SAME line and the same guitar riff OVER AND OVER AND OVER............it must have taken the all of 20 minutes to write a song. The best stuff is the remakes of the old stuff but it ends up butchered too.

                  Yeah, I'm an old hippy and I don't know what to do. Ha ha..
                  I envy uyou for the time you grew up in.

                  No interest in the mufflers?
                  Have:
                  1994 FZR600
                  1982 XJ1100

                  Had:
                  1996 YZF600R
                  2001 Honda xr125
                  Suzuki race 80
                  Honda PW 50
                  Etc.

                  Getting:
                  1977 DT400

                  Comment


                  • #69
                    Originally posted by motoman View Post
                    They'll all say that, meaning Mikuni style. If it ain't in a genuine Mikuni packaging or have the curly Mikuni logo on them, guarentee they ain'y Genuine Mikuni.
                    Originally posted by motoman View Post
                    They'll all say that, meaning Mikuni style. If it ain't in a genuine Mikuni packaging or have the curly Mikuni logo on them, guarentee they ain'y Genuine Mikuni.
                    Noted, thanks.
                    I'll get my next set from buyatvpartsonline like BA80 suggested yeah?
                    Have:
                    1994 FZR600
                    1982 XJ1100

                    Had:
                    1996 YZF600R
                    2001 Honda xr125
                    Suzuki race 80
                    Honda PW 50
                    Etc.

                    Getting:
                    1977 DT400

                    Comment


                    • #70
                      I read somewhere that you should only get smaller pilots of you can screw the pilot screw in all the way and the bike still runs.. is that false info too?!

                      Another urban myth.....you been readin' Wiki or sumptin'?
                      In the XJ's carbs case, that would be because the teeny-tiny O-rings on the recessed mixture screws are either trashed or gone. Did you put new ones in, and did you put washer/O-ring in correct order on mixture screw?.
                      81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

                      Comment


                      • #71
                        Carb Tuning

                        No one wants to hear this, but after reading so many posts where there are aftermarket parts being used, it appears that these parts (other than stock) do one thing really well - cause a bucket load of tuning problems seemingly every time.

                        It is a fact that a lot of the bikes have aftermarket exhaust due to a PO changing it or exhaust parts going bad, but suitable replacements are out there that do not require making any changes to the carbs.

                        The assumption that changing exhaust and/or going to pod filters means that carburetor modification is required appears to be somewhat of a myth.

                        It would appear that leaving the carburetors exactly stock after any exhaust or air filter change is the only method that has proven to work best. This is compared to changing exhaust or air filtration and picking jet numbers out of the air to put in the carbs.

                        All you have to do is read the posts.

                        In conclusion, make one change at a time, test the results, then and only then decide if something else needs to be done.

                        My 2 cents.

                        Mike
                        Last edited by MPittma100; 05-06-2014, 07:49 PM.
                        1981 XS1100H Venturer
                        K&N Air Filter
                        ACCT
                        Custom Paint by Deitz
                        Geezer Rectifier/Regulator
                        Chacal Stainless Steel Braided Brake Lines
                        Chrome Front Rotor & Caliper Covers
                        Stebel Nautilus Horn
                        EBC Front Rotors
                        Limie Accent Moves On In 2015

                        Mike

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by motoman View Post
                          I read somewhere that you should only get smaller pilots of you can screw the pilot screw in all the way and the bike still runs.. is that false info too?!

                          Another urban myth.....you been readin' Wiki or sumptin'?
                          In the XJ's carbs case, that would be because the teeny-tiny O-rings on the recessed mixture screws are either trashed or gone. Did you put new ones in, and did you put washer/O-ring in correct order on mixture screw?.
                          Yes new ones are in and I believe I put them in the correct order!
                          It would sem strange for the o-ring to go BETWEEN the washer and the spring...

                          It is spring, then washer then o-ring correct?! haha
                          Have:
                          1994 FZR600
                          1982 XJ1100

                          Had:
                          1996 YZF600R
                          2001 Honda xr125
                          Suzuki race 80
                          Honda PW 50
                          Etc.

                          Getting:
                          1977 DT400

                          Comment


                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Dylano* View Post
                            That makes sense, I figured it didn't matter, it sealed around the head with the brass washer thing in there, and it is the hole that counts right? haha
                            Am I reading you correctly..........you put small mikuni in place of large mikuni for main jets? .........you can't be serious?
                            If so, the plot thickens(as the rest of story comes out). Makes it hard to help and decifer when we don't get the whole story, whether what was done is correct or not. Only dumd question is the one that SHOULD of been asked.
                            Last edited by motoman; 05-06-2014, 07:49 PM.
                            81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

                            Comment


                            • #74
                              Originally posted by MPittma100 View Post
                              No one wants to hear this, but after reading so many post where there are aftermarket parts being used, it appears that these parts (other than stock) do one thing really well - cause a bucket load of tuning problems seemingly every time.

                              It is a fact that a lot of the bikes have aftermarket exhaust due to a PO changing it or exhaust parts going bad, but suitable replacements are out there that do not require making any changes to the carbs.

                              The assumption that changing exhaust and/or going to pod filters means that carburetor modification is required appears to be somewhat of a myth.

                              It would appear that leaving the carburetors exactly stock after any exhaust or air filter change is the only method that has proven to work best. This is compared to changing exhaust or air filtration and picking jet numbers out of the air to put in the carbs.

                              All you have to do is read the posts.

                              In conclusion, make one change at a time, test the results, then and only then decide if something else needs to be done.

                              My 2 cents.

                              Mike

                              Makes perfect sense...
                              I guess the reason I decided to get bigger jets right off is because I stripped the original pilots trying to get them out... and rather than buy the original size and then bigger ones, I just got bigger ones since I ASSUMED (maybe incorrectly so) that it would need them.
                              Have:
                              1994 FZR600
                              1982 XJ1100

                              Had:
                              1996 YZF600R
                              2001 Honda xr125
                              Suzuki race 80
                              Honda PW 50
                              Etc.

                              Getting:
                              1977 DT400

                              Comment


                              • #75
                                Originally posted by motoman View Post
                                Am I reading you correctly..........you put small mikuni in place of large mikuni for main jets? .........you can't be serious?
                                Totally 100% serious.
                                PLEASE TELL ME that is my only problem!!! haha

                                I honestly dont see why it would make a difference if the orifice is the same and all around the jet is sealed either way...

                                Tell me something else I don't know please. I'm begging for knowledge!!!

                                NATEMOEN appears to agree with me?
                                "The jets we use as air jets are call "Mikuni Small Round Main Jets". The jets we usr as main jets are called "Mikuni Large Round Main Jets". It just determines the size of the head of the jet I believe, I do not think it changes anything in the metering orifice"
                                Last edited by Dylano*; 05-06-2014, 07:51 PM.
                                Have:
                                1994 FZR600
                                1982 XJ1100

                                Had:
                                1996 YZF600R
                                2001 Honda xr125
                                Suzuki race 80
                                Honda PW 50
                                Etc.

                                Getting:
                                1977 DT400

                                Comment

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