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  • #31
    Originally posted by Dylano* View Post
    See?! I keep getting thrown in loops over this! Hahaha
    No, just tryin' to getcha' squared away.

    So, WHY, are the bleed type better than the non bleed which were stock??
    Not better, just correct for application as opposed to the VM style pilots.
    81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by natemoen View Post
      The ones with the holes, the BS 30/96 pilot jets, ARE the stock jets. If yours has the no hole jets in it when you took it apart the someone else put the wrong jets in. Some of the kits even come with the wrong jets in it just because people don't know any better.

      That is WONDERFUL information to have! No wonder they are easier to find than the non bleed... -_- do you happen to also know the exact stock jet sizes for the 82 xj? That way I can order one size up from that...
      Have:
      1994 FZR600
      1982 XJ1100

      Had:
      1996 YZF600R
      2001 Honda xr125
      Suzuki race 80
      Honda PW 50
      Etc.

      Getting:
      1977 DT400

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      • #33
        Sorry, an urban myth at best.[/QUOTE]

        +1 to that!
        Former owner, but I have NO PARTS LEFT!

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Dylano* View Post
          That is WONDERFUL information to have! No wonder they are easier to find than the non bleed... -_- do you happen to also know the exact stock jet sizes for the 82 xj? That way I can order one size up from that...
          Stock main jetting on the 1100XJ is 112.5's across all four. Anyhting else, clymer's or otherwise is another urban myth.
          81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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          • #35
            BTW, the difference in main jetting on the XJ and 80-81Specials(110's across all four) is dictated by metering rod differences. 80-81Standards used even different metering rods, so main jetting was different even yet. 78-79model carbies were all the same for all models(only two), but also fed from both pilot and main circuit thru ALL rpm ranges, which seems to allow a bit more error and ease of tuning. The later carbs seem to be a bit more fiddley with circuits seperated more. Either way, patience, persistance, listening to experience here and not trying to re-invent the wheel is key.....grasshopper.
            81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by motoman View Post
              Stock main jetting on the 1100XJ is 112.5's across all four. Anyhting else, clymer's or otherwise is another urban myth.
              He is wondering about the pilot jet size.
              Nathan
              KD9ARL

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              1978 XS1100E
              K&N Filter
              #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
              OEM Exhaust
              ATK Fork Brace
              LED Dash lights
              Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

              Green Monster Coils
              SS Brake Lines
              Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

              In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by natemoen View Post
                He is wondering about the pilot jet size.
                +1

                (:

                Although knowing the mains for sure is helpfull as well thank you!


                If someone KNOWS for sure the stock pilot jet size and also thinks that only going 1 size above that is good for pod filters AND open headers, let me know!

                THANKS!!!


                You guys are awesome.

                I didn't expect so much info so fast.
                This is only the second forum I've ever joined (strange for a 5 year comp. tech.)

                The other one was a Yamaha FZR forum!

                I've usually always found any answers I need from just browsing various forums.
                Have:
                1994 FZR600
                1982 XJ1100

                Had:
                1996 YZF600R
                2001 Honda xr125
                Suzuki race 80
                Honda PW 50
                Etc.

                Getting:
                1977 DT400

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                • #38
                  HA ha ha ha........nate hates this chart but I don't care.....

                  http://hitechkc.dyndns.org:78/phpbb3....php?f=5&t=268
                  Greg

                  Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                  ― Albert Einstein

                  80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                  The list changes.

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                  • #39
                    !!!

                    OH MORE INFO!

                    The reason, I personally dont think that only one size over stock on pilot jets is going to cut it is because:

                    1. when I had smaller jets than I do now, pilot fuel screw had to be out 5-6 turns to run ok (stopped and revv'd)
                    2. with current jets, pilot fuel screw still had to be out 4 turns to run ok (stopped and revv'd)
                    3. with current pilot jets screwed down to 1 turn out, the bike doesnt even want to start.

                    To ME that means I need even BIGGER pilots... but I am not very knowledgeable with motorcycle carbs, as these are actually the first I've really messed with!
                    Last edited by Dylano*; 05-06-2014, 06:18 PM.
                    Have:
                    1994 FZR600
                    1982 XJ1100

                    Had:
                    1996 YZF600R
                    2001 Honda xr125
                    Suzuki race 80
                    Honda PW 50
                    Etc.

                    Getting:
                    1977 DT400

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by BA80 View Post
                      HA ha ha ha........nate hates this chart but I don't care.....

                      http://hitechkc.dyndns.org:78/phpbb3....php?f=5&t=268
                      With a quick look through I didn't see anything XJ Maxim specific... :/
                      Have:
                      1994 FZR600
                      1982 XJ1100

                      Had:
                      1996 YZF600R
                      2001 Honda xr125
                      Suzuki race 80
                      Honda PW 50
                      Etc.

                      Getting:
                      1977 DT400

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                      • #41
                        Look at the 3rd post, the UK chart.
                        Greg

                        Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                        ― Albert Einstein

                        80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                        The list changes.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by natemoen View Post
                          Hold on (I didn't read it all to see if you said what pilots you were using)! You want the air bleed holes. You want to be using Mikuni BS 30/96 pilot jets. They have 6 holes on the sides in a 2-1-2-1 pattern.
                          You say in a 2-1-2-1 pattern... :/

                          THESE are the jets currently in the bike, 2-2-2-2 pattern, they SAY they are mikuni, are they imposters?! haha

                          http://www.ebay.com/itm/251492031057...84.m1439.l2649
                          Have:
                          1994 FZR600
                          1982 XJ1100

                          Had:
                          1996 YZF600R
                          2001 Honda xr125
                          Suzuki race 80
                          Honda PW 50
                          Etc.

                          Getting:
                          1977 DT400

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                          • #43
                            But you must remember, the MAINS are part of the equation. IF they are too small, then you could try going up in the pilots. I think that is the problem you are having now. Go up 2 sizes the mains, re-check the floats levels(with a tube on each carb, with the carbs level in a vise), and start with the screws out at 1 1/2 turns.
                            I almost always start with the idle set a little high so it will not stall when doing the first adjustments. as it gets a little better, you turn the idle down and keep going. For a "new" set of carbs, it can take two to three hours to get them dialed in.
                            Ray Matteis
                            KE6NHG
                            XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
                            XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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                            • #44
                              Ray, the mains don't even enter into the equation at idle.
                              Greg

                              Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                              ― Albert Einstein

                              80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                              The list changes.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by BA80 View Post
                                Look at the 3rd post, the UK chart.
                                My bad, didn't see that one hiding down there!

                                Great info, thanks, that is now bookmarked (:

                                So does anyone think I should just go back to one over pilots or bigger?!?!
                                Have:
                                1994 FZR600
                                1982 XJ1100

                                Had:
                                1996 YZF600R
                                2001 Honda xr125
                                Suzuki race 80
                                Honda PW 50
                                Etc.

                                Getting:
                                1977 DT400

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