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  • #61
    Any tricks to pulling the alternator rotor without the Yamaha puller tool? 3 jaw puller work?
    Scott
    1979 XS1100F
    1978 R100S BMW

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    • #62
      The puller is just a bolt, someone here can tell you the exact size and thread. I can't remember right off the top of my head.

      I have gotten them off without the puller and without damage by just 2 or 3 good smacks with a hammer on the sides near the base. The vibration loosened them.
      Greg

      Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

      ― Albert Einstein

      80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

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      • #63
        The bolt is a 16mm X 1.5 thread. The "Tool" is listed with those threads, I was not sure if the end was anything special or not.
        Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

        When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

        81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
        80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


        Previously owned
        93 GSX600F
        80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
        81 XS1100 Special
        81 CB750 C
        80 CB750 C
        78 XS750

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        • #64
          It is just a bolt with no special end. It may need to be found at a bolt supplier, most hardware stores probably won't have it.
          2H7 (79) owned since '89
          3H3 owned since '06

          "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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          • #65
            Yes, I've used 3 jaw pullers, but if you have the proper bolt, as mentioned, along with an impact, it works much easier. Just make sure you grease the threads of the bolt if you find one, otherwise too much friction is lost going against the threads instead of pushing against the crank end.

            With the 3 jaw puller, get it as tight as you can, then a couple good hard shots to the head of the puller with a hammer will generally dislodge the rotor and send it flying across the floor. I have no idea how two pieces of beveled metal get stuck together so bad.
            Try your hardest to be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.

            You can live to be 100, as long as you give up everything that would make you want to live to be 100!

            Current bikes:
            '06 Suzuki DR650
            *'82 XJ1100 with the 1179 kit. "Mad Maxim"
            '82 XJ1100 Completely stock fixer-upper
            '82 XJ1100 Bagger fixer-upper
            '82 XJ1100 Motor/frame and lots of boxes of parts
            '82 XJ1100 Parts bike
            '81 XS1100 Special
            '81 YZ250
            '80 XS850 Special
            '80 XR100
            *Crashed/Totalled, still own

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            • #66
              Gears are out!

              Ok, I have no idea how you guys get those gears out without splitting the cases!

              The engine that’s going into the bike has pristine gears so I plan on just swapping the washer position. I only had to split the case half’s by about ½ inch, should I pull the half’s apart to clean and redo the sealing surface? If I have to do that can I use the Permetex that’s on the shelf or do I need to the 60 mile round trip to the stealership to get Yammabond?



              Since I have both case half’s apart should I put the kick start gears in – is it worth the effort?




              I know its kinda cool but really the only time I used the kick starter was because it was there. With the removable lever you cant ride with it on and if the battery is dead the kick starter won’t help anyway. I guess the only thing it would be useful for is if I blew the starter – but it is kind of cool.
              Scott
              1979 XS1100F
              1978 R100S BMW

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              • #67
                If you have the cases open, and you have the kick start parts, you might as well put it in!
                Nathan
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                1978 XS1100E
                K&N Filter
                #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                OEM Exhaust
                ATK Fork Brace
                LED Dash lights
                Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

                Green Monster Coils
                SS Brake Lines
                Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

                In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

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                • #68
                  It is useless as tits on a boar hog.
                  Skids (Sid Hansen)

                  Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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                  • #69
                    What about sealing the case half's, optional or necessary?
                    Scott
                    1979 XS1100F
                    1978 R100S BMW

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by XS11UFO View Post
                      What about sealing the case half's, optional or necessary?
                      Necessary.... There's a o-ring or two in there that have to be right.
                      Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

                      '78E original owner - resto project
                      '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
                      '82 XJ rebuild project
                      '80SG restified, red SOLD
                      '79F parts...
                      '81H more parts...

                      Other current bikes:
                      '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
                      '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
                      '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
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                      Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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                      • #71
                        You want them sealed, I am not certain but I might make the trip for the 3-Bond or Yamabond. I think there is a different more generic brand stuff that is the same thing. Permatex will work for the bond, but I am not certain if it would be thicker than the 3-bond and make any difference to the bearings or seals where the case halfs meet.
                        Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

                        When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

                        81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
                        80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


                        Previously owned
                        93 GSX600F
                        80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
                        81 XS1100 Special
                        81 CB750 C
                        80 CB750 C
                        78 XS750

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                        • #72
                          From what I've read online threebond makes yammabond and supposedly NAPA carries it. I will try that, 1194 looks like the stuff.
                          Scott
                          1979 XS1100F
                          1978 R100S BMW

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                          • #73
                            NAPA doesn't have it, looks like Yammabond. I only see the oil pump O-ring, am I missing something?
                            Scott
                            1979 XS1100F
                            1978 R100S BMW

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                            • #74
                              http://www.amazon.com/Three-Bond-Liq.../dp/B0012TUVAW
                              Greg

                              Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                              ― Albert Einstein

                              80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                              The list changes.

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