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    Hey everyone, looking for help. Did h/light relay override. H/light works great. After doing this, went for ride, noticed lights dimming, turned around but didn't make it home. Recharged battery and took for cell check, o.k., so bike not charging. What should I check now? Heard that there is a wire behind fuse panel that can break and be charging problem. Is this true and should I check there? Thanks
    1980 xs1100g

  • #2
    Yup, there is a plug behind the fuse panel that comes from the alternator and that gets coroded and overheats and then melts. 9 times out of 10 that is the problem. Check that first.
    Nathan
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    • #3
      Originally posted by natemoen View Post
      Yup, there is a plug behind the fuse panel that comes from the alternator and that gets coroded and overheats and then melts. 9 times out of 10 that is the problem. Check that first.
      Do u happen to know what color wire is and how hard it is to get to? Should I unplug neg terminal before messing with this? Thanks
      1980 xs1100g

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      • #4
        It is always safest to unhook the neg terminal.

        Don't remember the wire colors, I think it is 3 whites and another color going into it, but just follow the wires coming out of the right side engine cover.
        Nathan
        KD9ARL

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        1978 XS1100E
        K&N Filter
        #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
        OEM Exhaust
        ATK Fork Brace
        LED Dash lights
        Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

        Green Monster Coils
        SS Brake Lines
        Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

        In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

        Theodore Roosevelt

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        • #5
          3 whites and one yellow, but over time, they may all look about the same color...
          Skids (Sid Hansen)

          Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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          • #6
            checkin plug

            Originally posted by skids View Post
            3 whites and one yellow, but over time, they may all look about the same color...
            going out now to check alt. plug. Keep u posted. thanks
            1980 xs1100g

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            • #7
              checked wires

              checked wires followed uo from alt. 3 white, one yellow, all tight, nothing burnt, loose or corroded. checked battery voltage and was only showing 11.6 at 4k, bout the same at 3 k. Any Ideas what to do next. Thanks. Dave
              1980 xs1100g

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              • #8
                Tap into the green field coil wire that leads to the alternator and ground it and with the bike running, rev to 4K and measure your voltage again. If it increases to 14+, your regulator is bad.
                2H7 (79) owned since '89
                3H3 owned since '06

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                • #9
                  will tap

                  Originally posted by bikerphil View Post
                  Tap into the green field coil wire that leads to the alternator and ground it and with the bike running, rev to 4K and measure your voltage again. If it increases to 14+, your regulator is bad.
                  Will do and let u know. By the way, where is this green coil wire and where di I ground it to? Sorry
                  1980 xs1100g

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                  • #10
                    There are 2 harnesses coming from the alt. and they run up behind the fuse panel, one has 3 white wires and one has 2 wires, the 2 wire one has a brown and a green wire. Tap into the green wire at the plug or strip off some insulation and twist a jumper wire around it and run it to a part of the frame that is not painted, like a bolt. Have your meter hooked to the battery and with the bike running, touch this jumper wire to the frame ground and check your meter for an increase in voltage. This test bypasses the voltage regulator and will allow the alternator to produce full voltage, this is safe for temporary testing purposes.
                    2H7 (79) owned since '89
                    3H3 owned since '06

                    "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by bikerphil View Post
                      There are 2 harnesses coming from the alt. and they run up behind the fuse panel, one has 3 white wires and one has 2 wires, the 2 wire one has a brown and a green wire. Tap into the green wire at the plug or strip off some insulation and twist a jumper wire around it and run it to a part of the frame that is not painted, like a bolt. Have your meter hooked to the battery and with the bike running, touch this jumper wire to the frame ground and check your meter for an increase in voltage. This test bypasses the voltage regulator and will allow the alternator to produce full voltage, this is safe for temporary testing purposes.
                      I've seen the wire, I'll ground her out and let u know. much appreciated.
                      1980 xs1100g

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                      • #12
                        checking wire

                        Have jumper wire I made with clips on ends. Would it be okay to clip one end to green plug prong or should I strip insulation on green wire and just clip this jumper to the exposed wire and then just clip other end to unpainted metal? Thanks
                        Last edited by dschmitta; 08-04-2013, 10:33 AM. Reason: forgot something
                        1980 xs1100g

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                        • #13
                          did test

                          Grounded out green field coil wire, ran bike up to 3-5k and voltage never moved. Stayed steady at 11.5, 11.6. Does this mean alternator o.k.? Any idea what to try next? Thanks. Dave
                          1980 xs1100g

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                          • #14
                            Ok, you tapped into the green wire and grounded it (this is with the plug still connected) and there was no change in the voltage correct? If so, then I would suspect the stator (alternator) to be NG. There is a diagnostic check for the stator and field coil in the FSM, I would try that test next. If it fails, I would just buy a complete used good unit from member Andreas.
                            2H7 (79) owned since '89
                            3H3 owned since '06

                            "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by bikerphil View Post
                              Ok, you tapped into the green wire and grounded it (this is with the plug still connected) and there was no change in the voltage correct? If so, then I would suspect the stator (alternator) to be NG. There is a diagnostic check for the stator and field coil in the FSM, I would try that test next. If it fails, I would just buy a complete used good unit from member Andreas.
                              I unplugged it first. I then ran jumper from green wire prong to bolt, started engine and revved. I take it the plug was supposed to stay together? My mistake. I did notice the tach was just bouncing a little while I did this, it didn't move mush off of zero? Should I just do it again
                              1980 xs1100g

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