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    Has anyone use regular nuts, on their exhaust studs, instead of the OEM Type?
    if so are there any drawbacks, or advantages, 2 using a regular nut
    xs1100 hartail bobber

    http://i1169.photobucket.com/albums/...-38-36_563.jpg

  • #2
    Originally posted by Nightengale View Post
    Has anyone use regular nuts, on their exhaust studs, instead of the OEM Type?
    if so are there any drawbacks, or advantages, 2 using a regular nut
    The photobucket link you have here says you have either moved or deleted the photo. I was looking to see what head pipes and flanges you had.

    I had the 2-1 Mac I think it is ( closest I could find ) it had the flat flanges bolted up to the engine with the original allen head bolts on it ( rusted and ugly ). I went to Ace and bought domed chrome acorn nuts for it, real nice. When I wanted to put the stock head pipes back on so as to use my center stand, I did not have a thin walled socket thin enough to fit between the nuts and the edge of the relief in the stock flanges. So I cleaned up the old rusty allen head bolts, sprayed them with chrome paint and used them. Good thing I save everything at least a little while. Still looking for something to replace them with that will fit, hopefully chrome ?
    76 XS650 C ROADSTER
    80 XS650 G Special II
    https://ibb.co/album/icbGgF
    80 XS 1100 SG
    81 XS 1100LH/SH DARKHORSE
    https://tinyurl.com/k6nzvtw
    AKA; Don'e, UD, Unca Don'e

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Nightengale View Post
      Has anyone use regular nuts, on their exhaust studs, instead of the OEM Type?
      if so are there any drawbacks, or advantages, 2 using a regular nut
      I had to use a regular nut on each bike that has 4-into 1 Jardine headers where the down tube interfere with an allen wrench or socket. In fact, an open end or box wrench works best on a regular nut there.
      Skids (Sid Hansen)

      Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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      • #4
        Regular nuts work just fine, zinc plated that is.
        2H7 (79) owned since '89
        3H3 owned since '06

        "If it ain't broke, modify it"

        ☮

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        • #5
          thanks guys

          I will get some tomorrow, so i can finish my front exhaust. What is the easiest way to get the old rusty ones off, and do you i. need new exhaust gaskets since i am taking the exhaust completly off.
          xs1100 hartail bobber

          http://i1169.photobucket.com/albums/...-38-36_563.jpg

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Nightengale View Post
            Has anyone use regular nuts, on their exhaust studs, instead of the OEM Type?
            if so are there any drawbacks, or advantages, 2 using a regular nut
            Hi John,
            if the exhaust flanges are flat plates any regular hex nuts will work.
            If they are finned forgings there ain't any clearance between the hole the nut goes into and the nut hexagon so you can't do the bastards up and you are stuck using those Allen key drive nuts. Yamaha still stocks them, ~$40 will buy you all eight.
            If you have a bro with lathe he can turn up a set of pillar nuts.
            If you have a bro with an aircraft specialty fastener catalog he can look up flanged reduced bi-hexagon nuts.
            Betcha either of these options will cost you more than buying the Yamanuts.
            Fred Hill, S'toon
            XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
            "The Flying Pumpkin"

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            • #7
              I went a different route with mine. On the SH I had an issue with alot of the nuts being so rusted to the studs they would not come off, and they were stripped on top of it. Most of them pulled the stud out of the block instead of the nut off the stud.

              so I took out all the studs and used allen head cap screws. Worked for me anyway.
              Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

              When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

              81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
              80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


              Previously owned
              93 GSX600F
              80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
              81 XS1100 Special
              81 CB750 C
              80 CB750 C
              78 XS750

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              • #8
                On standard XS11 exhaust flanges I used these and turned down one half so it'd fit into the counterbore of the flange, you could easily file off half way up the hex corners if you ain't got a lathe, and $2 for 10 they're cheeaaap!

                http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Scre...0/sd920/p86819

                Search for M8 connector nut

                I used stainless, not so cheap but still waaaay cheaper than Yamahaha nuts.

                I also have some of these furniture type nuts in M8 to try but they are a bit thin on the wall, the ones I have were given to me to try, they're stainless too so the top flange can be turned off, maybe some decent washers would stop them trying to pull through the flange holes
                http://www.zyhyin.com/exec/product.p...Nuts_15mm&lg=E

                The top connector nuts work really well so I havn't tried them yet.


                .
                Tom
                1982 5K7 Sport, restored to original from a wreck
                1978 2H9 (E), my original XS11, mostly original
                1980 2H9 monoshocked (avatar pic)http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...psf30aa1c8.jpg
                1982 XJ1100, waiting resto to original

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                • #9
                  John, If you do go replacing them, get metric ones, not standard.
                  Wish you would have said something to me about it last weekend.
                  Not that my nuts are any better than yours.

                  Seriously,
                  I bought one of these from Boats.net last year.




                  $1.49 each and if your order is less than $10 then shipping is only $1.75.

                  So let's do the math, $1.49 times 8 is $11.92, which is over the $10 limit, so split it up into 2 orders, 6 in the first order for $8.94 and then 2 more for $2.98. On the second order, you can find something for about $7 and still get the order under $10.

                  If the order is above $10 then shipping jumps to $6.95

                  They ship USPS and usually get it within a few days too.
                  Hi, my name is George & I'm a twisty addict!

                  80G (Green paint(PO idea))
                  The Green Monster
                  K&N A/F, TC's fuse block, '81 oil cooler, TC's homemade 4-2 w/Mac Mufflers, Raptor 660 ACCT
                  Got him in '04.
                  bald tire & borrowing parts

                  80SG (Black w/red emblems & calipers)
                  Scarlet
                  K&N A/F, TC's fuse block, WJ5, Shoei bags, Raptor 660 ACCT.
                  Got her in '11
                  Ready for the twisties!

                  81H (previously CPMaynard's)
                  Hugo
                  Full Venturer, Indigo Blue with B/W painted tank.
                  Cold weather ride

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by GLoweVA View Post
                    John, If you do go replacing them, get metric ones, not standard.
                    Wish you would have said something to me about it last weekend.
                    Not that my nuts are any better than yours.

                    Seriously,
                    I bought one of these from Boats.net last year.




                    $1.49 each and if your order is less than $10 then shipping is only $1.75.

                    So let's do the math, $1.49 times 8 is $11.92, which is over the $10 limit, so split it up into 2 orders, 6 in the first order for $8.94 and then 2 more for $2.98. On the second order, you can find something for about $7 and still get the order under $10.

                    If the order is above $10 then shipping jumps to $6.95

                    They ship USPS and usually get it within a few days too.
                    That's great now rub my nose in it so I can find them,,,, please !
                    76 XS650 C ROADSTER
                    80 XS650 G Special II
                    https://ibb.co/album/icbGgF
                    80 XS 1100 SG
                    81 XS 1100LH/SH DARKHORSE
                    https://tinyurl.com/k6nzvtw
                    AKA; Don'e, UD, Unca Don'e

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                    • #11
                      Sorry I forgot to put the link in:

                      http://www.boats.net/parts/detail/ya...-08599-00.html
                      Hi, my name is George & I'm a twisty addict!

                      80G (Green paint(PO idea))
                      The Green Monster
                      K&N A/F, TC's fuse block, '81 oil cooler, TC's homemade 4-2 w/Mac Mufflers, Raptor 660 ACCT
                      Got him in '04.
                      bald tire & borrowing parts

                      80SG (Black w/red emblems & calipers)
                      Scarlet
                      K&N A/F, TC's fuse block, WJ5, Shoei bags, Raptor 660 ACCT.
                      Got her in '11
                      Ready for the twisties!

                      81H (previously CPMaynard's)
                      Hugo
                      Full Venturer, Indigo Blue with B/W painted tank.
                      Cold weather ride

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by GLoweVA View Post
                        John, If you do go replacing them, get metric ones, not standard.
                        Bit confused here, the standard ones are metric - M8 x 1.25




                        .
                        Tom
                        1982 5K7 Sport, restored to original from a wreck
                        1978 2H9 (E), my original XS11, mostly original
                        1980 2H9 monoshocked (avatar pic)http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...psf30aa1c8.jpg
                        1982 XJ1100, waiting resto to original

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by TomB View Post
                          Bit confused here, the standard ones are metric - M8 x 1.25

                          .
                          Didn't mean to confuse anyone. Of course all our bikes are metric.
                          I was refering to those bikes that the POs have put standard (SAE/non metric) fasteners on there and totally buggered up the studs.
                          Hi, my name is George & I'm a twisty addict!

                          80G (Green paint(PO idea))
                          The Green Monster
                          K&N A/F, TC's fuse block, '81 oil cooler, TC's homemade 4-2 w/Mac Mufflers, Raptor 660 ACCT
                          Got him in '04.
                          bald tire & borrowing parts

                          80SG (Black w/red emblems & calipers)
                          Scarlet
                          K&N A/F, TC's fuse block, WJ5, Shoei bags, Raptor 660 ACCT.
                          Got her in '11
                          Ready for the twisties!

                          81H (previously CPMaynard's)
                          Hugo
                          Full Venturer, Indigo Blue with B/W painted tank.
                          Cold weather ride

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                          • #14
                            Removal

                            Originally posted by Nightengale View Post
                            I will get some tomorrow, so i can finish my front exhaust. What is the easiest way to get the old rusty ones off, and do you i. need new exhaust gaskets since i am taking the exhaust completly off.
                            If you have an Octy-Acetelene torch, heat the nuts up prior to removing them. They will come right off. You will need new exhaust gaskets. Use some anti-seize (high temp) on the stud threads upon installation of new nuts. Retighten new nuts a couple of times after you ride the bike making sure that they are staying tight.

                            MP
                            1981 XS1100H Venturer
                            K&N Air Filter
                            ACCT
                            Custom Paint by Deitz
                            Geezer Rectifier/Regulator
                            Chacal Stainless Steel Braided Brake Lines
                            Chrome Front Rotor & Caliper Covers
                            Stebel Nautilus Horn
                            EBC Front Rotors
                            Limie Accent Moves On In 2015

                            Mike

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                            • #15
                              If anyone needs new studs, I've got about 7 or so that I accidently bought too many of. I'll gladly drop some in an envelope if anyone needs one or 2 or 3.
                              Hi, my name is George & I'm a twisty addict!

                              80G (Green paint(PO idea))
                              The Green Monster
                              K&N A/F, TC's fuse block, '81 oil cooler, TC's homemade 4-2 w/Mac Mufflers, Raptor 660 ACCT
                              Got him in '04.
                              bald tire & borrowing parts

                              80SG (Black w/red emblems & calipers)
                              Scarlet
                              K&N A/F, TC's fuse block, WJ5, Shoei bags, Raptor 660 ACCT.
                              Got her in '11
                              Ready for the twisties!

                              81H (previously CPMaynard's)
                              Hugo
                              Full Venturer, Indigo Blue with B/W painted tank.
                              Cold weather ride

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