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    I want to fill some bad pitting in the polished part of my wheels.
    Does anyone know of a putty type of filler that can be polished after it hardens? (eg. Lab Metal, Davcon)

    Has anyone used a low temperture melting aluminium filler rod on wheels? (eg.Muggyweld Super Alloy 1 or 5)
    Has anyone tig welded on wheels?
    Im only talking about cosmetic repairs here.

    Is there anything to fill these pits and can be polished to look at least better than just holes?
    I dont want to paint the polished part of the rims.
    81 RH

  • #2
    I would be afraid to weld on the wheels. Heat stress. I would think that temperature to melt aluminum to aluminum could be a bad thing, but hey I have been wrong before!
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Steveh View Post
      I want to fill some bad pitting in the polished part of my wheels. - - -
      Hi Steve,
      I don't see filling the pits and re-polishing looking anything but effin' 'orrible.
      If the pits are deep enough to TIG weld the rim is scrap anyway.
      Two things to try:-
      1) Bead blast the polished areas to disguise the aluminium acne.
      2) Find a big enough lathe and remove a skim cut off the surface to get back to new metal.
      Fred Hill, S'toon
      XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
      "The Flying Pumpkin"

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      • #4
        Hi

        Crazy Steve turned me onto this product. I haven't tried it yet but sounds like what your looking for. Looks like super alloy 5 is the right one.
        http://www.muggyweld.com/?view=aluminum
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        • #5
          I just wonder if rubbing tin foil on that pitting would make it look OK temporarily ?
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          • #6
            Hey Fred,

            I was thinking more along the same lines as your last comment, get a flap grinder with a fine grit and grind away the surface aluminum to get a smooth finish, then he should be able to get a better surface for polishing. These rims are quite thick, so a few thousandths off shouldn't affect their durability and strength.

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            • #7
              I've tig'ed stuff like this daily. Hot and fast to reduce the HAZ (Heat affected zone). If you or someone you know is decent with a torch, have at her. Then machine the surface for the best results.
              79F cafe

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              • #8
                I don't know what alloy or heat treatment was used on our rims, but welding aluminum can wreck the heat treatment, and you can lose about two thirds of the strength in the alloy. For example (this is from memory, so don't use these numbers to build a spacecraft), 6061 alloy with T6 heat treatment has a yield strength around 45 ksi, and that drops to around 14 ksi in the heat affected zone if you weld it.

                I would opt for filler and paint over taking the chance on welding. Your wheels would be most stressed when you're in a bad situation already... I wouldn't want it to get any worse.
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                • #9
                  Like Fred suggests, if the wheel or wheels are pitted badly they are already compromised. Got any pics ?
                  IMHO you may have more time and materials in a fix than securing a good used one or two form Andreas Weiss or here's one of many on ebay:

                  http://www.ebay.com/itm/Yamaha-XS110...6312e0&vxp=mtr
                  1980 XS1100G "Dolly G" Full Dresser (with a coat of many colors )
                  1979 XS1100SF (stock-euro mods planned)
                  1984 XV700L Virago (to be hot-modded)
                  1983 XJ750MK Midnight Maxim (semi-restored DD)
                  1977 XS650D ( patiently awaiting resto)

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                  • #10
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                    Originally posted by Steveh View Post
                    I want to fill some bad pitting in the polished part of my wheels.
                    Does anyone know of a putty type of filler that can be polished after it hardens? (eg. Lab Metal, Davcon)

                    Has anyone used a low temperture melting aluminium filler rod on wheels? (eg.Muggyweld Super Alloy 1 or 5)
                    Has anyone tig welded on wheels?
                    Im only talking about cosmetic repairs here.

                    Is there anything to fill these pits and can be polished to look at least better than just holes?
                    I dont want to paint the polished part of the rims.
                    Check with your local high end car dealer, they will have a person that repaires road rash on their alum wheels, they can fix yours if you like or sell you the filler so you can fix yourself. It is a two part filler and made just for your needs, or just order some here:

                    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Alloy-Wheel-...4729%26ps%3D54
                    Last edited by XS1100_OEM4ME; 03-25-2013, 03:04 PM.
                    1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
                    1980 XS1100 Special
                    1990 V Max
                    1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
                    1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
                    1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
                    1974 CB750-Four



                    Past/pres Car's
                    1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8

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                    • #11
                      Check me if I'm wrong, but Steveh wanted something that would polish up like bare aluminum.
                      The stuff you pointed out is for the painted rims that seem to be the norm on newer cars.
                      I think his best bet would be to find a used rim that wasn't pitted, as all the processes suggested so far are long on labor and cost.
                      The old wet blanket, CZ

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by CaptonZap View Post
                        I think his best bet would be to find a used rim that wasn't pitted, as all the processes suggested so far are long on labor and cost.
                        The old wet blanket, CZ
                        You have to remember that he is in Australia so the simple act of getting one shipped is very costly if it comes from here. Thus the need for a better/cheaper fix. I have rims I could send for free but the shipping and time would be prohibitive. I think parts are not as easily come by down under as they are here. I could be wrong (again) but that's my take on it.
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                        • #13
                          Thanks Ras
                          81 RH

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by CaptonZap View Post
                            Check me if I'm wrong, but Steveh wanted something that would polish up like bare aluminum.
                            The stuff you pointed out is for the painted rims that seem to be the norm on newer cars.
                            I think his best bet would be to find a used rim that wasn't pitted, as all the processes suggested so far are long on labor and cost.
                            The old wet blanket, CZ
                            +1, the best fix would be replace the wheels with real nice ones if he can find cheap. The paint, if you want to call it that, for the wheels has come a long way as seen here:

                            http://www.alsacorp.com/products/kil...P1070965_L.jpg

                            true, it looks best when sprayed on, but if he polishes the wheels 1st, fills the pits that show, then touches up with the silver coat, it should look good, not perfect, but good.

                            As to the shipping, the sight I sent is in the UK and offers free worldwide shipping to Australia
                            1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
                            1980 XS1100 Special
                            1990 V Max
                            1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
                            1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
                            1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
                            1974 CB750-Four



                            Past/pres Car's
                            1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8

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                            • #15
                              Pits

                              Pits are an easy fix with this stuff, If the wheels are so bad that this won't help, they need replaced for a lot of reasons, some safty related, if not, then LOOKS are an easy fix this way
                              1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
                              1980 XS1100 Special
                              1990 V Max
                              1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
                              1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
                              1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
                              1974 CB750-Four



                              Past/pres Car's
                              1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8

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