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[DGXSER]

How many were using the old glass fuses and running, or sitting in a farm field? Until TC and others came up with a much better option and about everyone I know of has upgraded to the new style fuse box.

Maybe not on an XS11, but I can assure you there are twenty times as many electronic fuel valves in use than there are vacuum fuel valves. These style of valves are common on about every RV, some cars, and guaranteed to be on every fuel oil system feeding the emergency generators in a building. Not to mention the ones in similar application on water systems.

Just because something new comes along, does not mean the old system is not functional, just that it may not be as desirable to some. Again, my point is not to dis on the Pingel valve, never used it. But I know how useless the factory OCTY has been on every bike I have owned. And if this piece gets the job done for half the price, sounds like a bargain to me. I would be willing to bet the solenoid on that valve will out live the diaphram in any stock OCTY.

[Nightengale]

will update

I have a little more research to do to find the exact part that I want to use. Once I get it and put it on the bike I'll post with the results, of how well it works. This is just something that I thought my work, and I wanted to share. with everyone on here. This might not work any better or any worse than a vacuum system, but at least it's another option, for anyone who's interested.

[Petersg_99]

I almost wish I had waited until you found this valve, it's cheaper, but it doesn't specifically state it's for use with gasoline, they only specify liquids.

Probably because of legal issues if they advertise it for use with flammable liquids...

i have found one on ebay that has 1/4 inch line and works at 0psi so it could be as easy as connecting your fuel line to either side and hooking up two wires
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Electric-Sol...item1c2eb690b4

but still researching to see what else is out there before i commit to any one, i am getting closer to finding one that is just the right fit and price, and i am still not sure about the 1/8" as far as it restricting fuel flow, but i am checking with the manufacture tomorow about that, and be able to use the first one i listed.

[Nightengale]

I almost wish I had waited until you found this valve, it's cheaper, but it doesn't specifically state it's for use with gasoline, they only specify liquids.

Probably because of legal issues if they advertise it for use with flammable liquids...

It does state that it works best with fuels, then lists, ggas diesel and bio fuels. In the description

[ViperRon]

I made a comment about preferring not to have an electronic device near my gas and no explaination. The issues I look at is first exposure in our bikes the valve would be exposed to both heat and enviroment. Most modern bikes place devices like this in a protected spot. Use it continious and more than likely no problem, let them set and that causes failure



Electric fuel pumps current design is fairly safe and and well tested some early ones were definately not. The motor is totally isolated from fuel you would actually have to break the motor open to expose it to gas. The real issue I would have is I would want to know that methanol would not disolve the seals making it leak or burn out.

I have had my experiences with fire none good. Just what I prefeer. I do know there is a guy here who can tell you how quick the the drip becomes fire on these bikes and then becomes the porch and house.

If I needed cheap I'd either do the mod Steve came up with or get little turn off valves till i could get good petcocks or Octy.

[BA80]

Most definitly your choice Ron.

I will say though that in my field of work I see these types of fuel valves quite frequently under vehicles, particularly heavy trucks and they are FAR from being well protected and doing quite well.

That being said, I've had my octy go bad and spray the bottom of the fuel tank with gas.

[unicorncomputer]

I was thinking about getting LED lights that also blinked for the tail light. Have you ever used / seen these and have any feedback.

I have led lights on my bike as well.

[unicorncomputer]

Just ordered the Pingel Fuel valve for my 79 special that is missing the OCTY.

Wondering now if this is a better route.

i have been thinking about seeing if i could put an electronic fuel shut off valves on my bike, to where the valve is only open when the key is turned on. i have forgotten to shut off the petcocks a few times (as i know many of us have), and figured that this might help to remedy this problem. also what would be the best way to wire it so that it came on when the key was on and off when the key is off. any thoughts, comments, and advice would help. i have done a little research and found some the i think will work http://www.dan-marc.com/79-afc11112.html , but wanted to get you guys thoughts. thanks in advance

[Nightengale]

I was thinking about getting LED lights that also blinked for the tail light. Have you ever used / seen these and have any feedback.

I know they have them and i have seen and read about them, but mostly on newer bikes. Put up a post and i am sure there are guys on here that either have them or know what you need to make them work.

[Nightengale]

Just ordered the Pingel Fuel valve for my 79 special that is missing the OCTY.

Wondering now if this is a better route.

There are alot of guys that have the pingel and love them i dont know if my option is any better. They both have the same end result, added safety so you dont flood the bike with gas if you forget to turn off the petcock.

[crazy steve]

If you're replacing the tail/brake light, it should be plug-and-play. If you're trying to do something with the turns is when it gets interesting....

[CatatonicBug]

I replaced my tail bulbs with LEDs, and that was plug-and-play. Just remember that if you have more than the 2 tail bulbs in the circuit (like with a trunk), you have to replace all of them with LEDs. You can also use flashing 1157 bulbs to get them to blink when the brake is applied, or add a strobe module to the circuit. I have that. Superbrightleds sells them in a few variations. The down side is that there is limited space under the seat to put it. Not impossible, but it takes some thought and planning on wire lengths.

The built-in flasher bulbs are only 90 lumens, but you can use these with the strobe, and they are 30/120 lumens for the red ones. Always be sure to get the color bulb that matches the lense.

If you're interested in the switch to LEDs for the turn signals as well, you can do that too. If you do nothing but swap the bulbs, you'll lose the self-cancel feature. Or, you can use Cy's mod to recover that functionality. I built one, and it works perfectly.

[Nightengale]

longevity

Someone has stated on here, that they would be worried about the longevity of the electronic fuel shutoff valve, since most of these are in continuous use. With most of these bikes sitting dormant, during the winter months th.at it might be a problem. I have located 1 that's made for gas generators, so sitting dormant for a little while should be no problem at all. I'm doing all this research, to make sure that this would be a good, mod for our bikes, and willingness be something that will last,. And not hurt your wallet either.

[Rasputin]

While I am the first to admit I know diddly squat about electrickery, I want to ask what kind of load would it put on the already overtaxed charging system?
No power shuts it down, so it must take juice to hold it open. I imagine it would not take much but it may be something to check out.
If the stock octy does not work for someone, the pingel is just too much money or they just prefer to do it with electronics is fine with me. I opt for the stock octy and have rebuilt many with no problems (knock on wood).

[Nightengale]

checked that out

While I am the first to admit I know diddly squat about electrickery, I want to ask what kind of load would it put on the already overtaxed charging system?
No power shuts it down, so it must take juice to hold it open. I imagine it would not take much but it may be something to check out.
If the stock octy does not work for someone, the pingel is just too much money or they just prefer to do it with electronics is fine with me. I opt for the stock octy and have rebuilt many with no problems (knock on wood).

i did check to see how much juice it would draw and the one that i am looking at only draws 600mA of power, and the largest on that i looked at was 1A of draw. doesnt seem like enough to effect anything, but i could be wrong.