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  • Interesting 79F

    Hey all,

    Finally joining the ranks of multiple XS ownership! I am pikcing up a 79F this Friday to give some company in the garage to the my nice 80SG and ZRX 1200. Three's company, right?

    Label on the steering head says it was built in May, 1979. Color is the brownish factory paint, and has the 79 style grabrail, not the nicer grab rail of the 80 SG, and other 80 model year XS's.

    It has a factory "Yamaha" fairing (no lowers though), including oil pressure, oil temp, voltmeter gauges in the fairing. Plus it has a Kerker oil cooler up front.

    So far, you guys are saying "ok, what is the interesting part"?

    Ok, now to the interesting part, or at least I think so... It is my understanding that 79 model year XS's have a kick starter, yes? This one has the same set up as my 80 SG, with a plug in the kickstarter hole, so I don't believe it has the "plumbing" for a kickstarter, and didn't see a lever tucked up in the storage location. Granted, a lever could be long gone, but what is the deal with the plug in the hole?

    CaptonZap indicated that later 79's might have gone to the no-kick start feature although May of 1979 doesn't seem like a late production date for at 79 model, but maybe so. A thought I have is since it has the Yamaha fairing, those models were deemed "touring" oriented, and they did away with the kickstart feature on those units, since they were getting rid of it for 1980 anyway?

    As well, was the Kerker oil cooler featured on the faired models, or would that have been an after market add?

    Love that 160 mph speedo, fuel gauge and 5 gallon tank though! (it is 5 gallons, yes, or is it a bit more?)
    Last edited by Bonz; 11-20-2012, 11:29 AM.
    Howard

    ZRX1200

    BTW, ZRX carbs have the same spacing as the XS11... http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35462

  • #2
    Check the Serial number on the engine to see if it matches the frame. Either someone eliminated the kick start and put the plug in, or you have an 80-81 engine in your 79 bike.

    Oil cooler I am not certain on, I was not aware they came from the factory with one. And I think the tank is 5.5 gallons or there abouts. Probably 5 to the reserve though.
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    • #3
      There could be several reasons for the 'missing' kicker....

      First, are you sure it's the original motor? If the first three digits on the motor number aren't 2H7 or 3H3, it's been swapped for a later version and the kicker would be missing. Another possibility is the cover may have been replaced with a later-model part and the PO didn't transfer the parts.

      As to the oil cooler, that was an add-on as none of the US bikes came with the cooler except for the '81 standard. Same goes for the fairing; until the '81H, all fairings/touring bits were dealer or owner installed.
      Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

      '78E original owner - resto project
      '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
      '82 XJ rebuild project
      '80SG restified, red SOLD
      '79F parts...
      '81H more parts...

      Other current bikes:
      '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
      '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
      '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
      Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
      Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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      • #4
        So, the dealer installed fairing would have Yamaha on it, was it a Vetter by any other name?

        What I hear, is that it is cut and dried that a 79F would have the kickstarter, period, with NO chance of it being a later 1979 model that was made without it?

        Here is the link to the bike from craigslist, take a look at the pics and see if you think that is a plug or a hole... I swear in person the bike had the plug, but maybe I'm just seeing things...

        http://pueblo.craigslist.org/mcd/3305655860.html

        And no, haven't cross checked the serial #'s, I will.
        Howard

        ZRX1200

        BTW, ZRX carbs have the same spacing as the XS11... http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35462

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        • #5
          That bike is a 1980, can tell by the side covers and the foot pegs.
          2H7 (79) owned since '89
          3H3 owned since '06

          "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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          • #6
            I did not share this initially... As you see, it is advertised as a 1980, but has the 160 mph speedo that went away for 1980, if I am correct. That is not a factory color for an F model for 1980 either, but is a factory paint job, again, correct me if I am wrong? I thought the 80G had the silver/gray paint, not the brownish?

            I woke up this moring thinking I knew s*it from shineola, but maybe not!
            Howard

            ZRX1200

            BTW, ZRX carbs have the same spacing as the XS11... http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35462

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            • #7
              That's a '80, not a '79; the seat and sidecovers are the giveaway. If it was built in may '79, a very early production '80....

              It has had some parts swapping done; you've got the '78-79 speedo. The fairing is an aftermarket unit, it's neither a 'official' Pacifico or Yamaha/vetter unit. But I see more '80' clues than anything else (it's got the '80-up carbs on it) but it might pay to check both the frame and motor numbers to verify what it is.
              Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

              '78E original owner - resto project
              '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
              '82 XJ rebuild project
              '80SG restified, red SOLD
              '79F parts...
              '81H more parts...

              Other current bikes:
              '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
              '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
              '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
              Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
              Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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              • #8
                Looks to be a frankin bike. '80 engine, frame (looking at the wide foot pegs), seat and side covets but 79F tank, speedo and exhaust.
                '79 XS11 F
                Stock except K&N

                '79 XS11 SF
                Stock, no title.

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                • #9
                  Yeah, the label is uequivocally "5/79" manufacture date. That is what makes me think, whether it's true or not is another story, I have a one of a kind hybrid that is worth tens of thousands of dollars...

                  The fairing has a very visible "Yamaha" label on it, front and center above the headlight, below the 'screen. Don't think it's aftermarket, unless someone just stuck a label there for grins...?

                  Seems like an odd combination of parts to make a Franken bike, eh?

                  Gotta love the 160 mph speedo, always liked that.
                  Howard

                  ZRX1200

                  BTW, ZRX carbs have the same spacing as the XS11... http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35462

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                  • #10
                    If you check the VIN # it is probably a very low 3H5 number.
                    2H7 (79) owned since '89
                    3H3 owned since '06

                    "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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                    • #11
                      Thanks guys, will check VIN numbers, get back with ya'll..
                      Howard

                      ZRX1200

                      BTW, ZRX carbs have the same spacing as the XS11... http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35462

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                      • #12
                        These are the factory colors by year. Not sure if it's an issue at this point.

                        Model Code Serial # Year Color(s)
                        XS1100E 2H7 2H7-000101 1978 Macho Maroon
                        XS1100F 2H7 2H7-020101 1979 Magenta Red, Indigo Blue
                        XS1100SF 3H3 3H3-000101 1979 Carmine Red, Black Gold
                        XS1100G 3H5 3H5-000101 1980 Diamond Silver, New Ruby Red
                        XS1100SG 3J6 3J6-000101 1980 Black Red, New Ruby Red
                        XS1100LG 4H3/4H4 4H3-000101 1980 New Yamaha Black
                        XS1100H 4R1 4R1-000101 1981 Indigo Blue
                        XS1100SH 4R0 4R0-000101 1981 Black Blue, Cardinal Red
                        XS1100LH 4W1 4W1-000001 1981 New Yamaha Black
                        XJ1100J 10M 10M-000101 1982 New Yamaha Black, New Ruby Red
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                        • #13
                          Thanks for that info, will crosscheck once I have the #'s. Just interested in the bike's DNA at this point!
                          Howard

                          ZRX1200

                          BTW, ZRX carbs have the same spacing as the XS11... http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35462

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                          • #14
                            It has the '80 fuel tank, that's the correct graphics. The color is the somewhat rare 'Ruby Red'...
                            Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

                            '78E original owner - resto project
                            '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
                            '82 XJ rebuild project
                            '80SG restified, red SOLD
                            '79F parts...
                            '81H more parts...

                            Other current bikes:
                            '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
                            '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
                            '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
                            Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
                            Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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                            • #15
                              "Rare" Ruby Red? I can see why... Looks like the "Royal Reddish Turd Brown" Special edition that never came to be...
                              Howard

                              ZRX1200

                              BTW, ZRX carbs have the same spacing as the XS11... http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35462

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