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  • crazy steve
    XS-XJ Guru MODERATOR
    • Jan 2009
    • 7932
    • Beautiful outer Yelm, WA

    #16
    Yeah, the red tints that Yamaha used back then faded rather badly....
    Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

    '78E original owner - resto project
    '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
    '82 XJ rebuild project
    '80SG restified, red SOLD
    '79F parts...
    '81H more parts...

    Other current bikes:
    '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
    '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
    '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
    Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
    Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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    • Bonz
      XS-XJ Super Guru
      • Apr 2008
      • 3206
      • Palmer Lake, Colorado

      #17
      Question:

      Front tire needs replacing on the 79/80 hybrid...

      Can I swap over the wheel/tire from my 80SG to this bike for some riding until the new tire I've ordered arrives? I realize I have a leading axle on my 80SG, maybe that makes it a no go?
      Howard

      ZRX1200

      BTW, ZRX carbs have the same spacing as the XS11... http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35462

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      • crazy steve
        XS-XJ Guru MODERATOR
        • Jan 2009
        • 7932
        • Beautiful outer Yelm, WA

        #18
        Wheels are the same....
        Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

        '78E original owner - resto project
        '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
        '82 XJ rebuild project
        '80SG restified, red SOLD
        '79F parts...
        '81H more parts...

        Other current bikes:
        '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
        '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
        '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
        Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
        Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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        • Bonz
          XS-XJ Super Guru
          • Apr 2008
          • 3206
          • Palmer Lake, Colorado

          #19
          No difference in the axle in terms of it mounting to the Std fork is a good thing! I know the SG inside and out, not versed in the std models, so good to learn the commonalities!
          Howard

          ZRX1200

          BTW, ZRX carbs have the same spacing as the XS11... http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35462

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          • DAVINCI
            XS-XJ Guru
            • Jan 2011
            • 1048
            • Cedar Mountain, NC

            #20
            Originally posted by crazy steve
            Wheels are the same....
            Really?

            I was under the impression that the speedo ring was on the opposite side....or is it just the axle nut that's on the opposite side?
            Former owner, but I have NO PARTS LEFT!

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            • Bonz
              XS-XJ Super Guru
              • Apr 2008
              • 3206
              • Palmer Lake, Colorado

              #21
              Hmmmm.... Anyone?
              Howard

              ZRX1200

              BTW, ZRX carbs have the same spacing as the XS11... http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35462

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              • DGXSER
                Doctor of XSology(Deceased)
                • Nov 2008
                • 12001
                • Cincinnati, Ohio

                #22
                Looking at the pictures of your F, the axle nut is on the opposite side of the Specials. However, I also see the speedo drive cable on the same left side as on the Special.

                Now, I know from other post on here that the speedo drive is different between the two, but I do not know if the way they mate up to the wheel is different. If they are the same it would probably not be to much trouble to swap wheels. If different it may be more toruble than its worth.
                Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

                When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

                81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
                80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


                Previously owned
                93 GSX600F
                80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
                81 XS1100 Special
                81 CB750 C
                80 CB750 C
                78 XS750

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                • Bonz
                  XS-XJ Super Guru
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 3206
                  • Palmer Lake, Colorado

                  #23
                  Yeah, for just a few days of riding before a new tire arrives, sounds like the wheels won't be an easy swap, but I'll look side by side. I'll just polish and shine up the new to me 79F/80G/7980FG and get after all the other stuff it needs while waiting on the tire.
                  Howard

                  ZRX1200

                  BTW, ZRX carbs have the same spacing as the XS11... http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35462

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                  • crazy steve
                    XS-XJ Guru MODERATOR
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 7932
                    • Beautiful outer Yelm, WA

                    #24
                    Mechanically, all the XS/XJ11 front wheels are the same. Yes, there's differences in style and the tube/tubeless wheels, but none of these things will affect swapping wheels. Bearings, speedo drive tangs, seals, etc are all the same....
                    Last edited by crazy steve; 11-20-2012, 04:32 PM.
                    Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

                    '78E original owner - resto project
                    '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
                    '82 XJ rebuild project
                    '80SG restified, red SOLD
                    '79F parts...
                    '81H more parts...

                    Other current bikes:
                    '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
                    '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
                    '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
                    Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
                    Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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                    • Bonz
                      XS-XJ Super Guru
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 3206
                      • Palmer Lake, Colorado

                      #25
                      That sounds like an authoritative answer, Crazy man...
                      Howard

                      ZRX1200

                      BTW, ZRX carbs have the same spacing as the XS11... http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35462

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                      • crazy steve
                        XS-XJ Guru MODERATOR
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 7932
                        • Beautiful outer Yelm, WA

                        #26
                        I've had all types (tube, tubeless, XS and XJ) in my hands and there's no differences mechanically. You do need to use the model-specific axle, speedo drive, hardware because of fork differences but that's it....
                        Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

                        '78E original owner - resto project
                        '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
                        '82 XJ rebuild project
                        '80SG restified, red SOLD
                        '79F parts...
                        '81H more parts...

                        Other current bikes:
                        '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
                        '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
                        '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
                        Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
                        Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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                        • Bonz
                          XS-XJ Super Guru
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 3206
                          • Palmer Lake, Colorado

                          #27
                          Thanks much!
                          Howard

                          ZRX1200

                          BTW, ZRX carbs have the same spacing as the XS11... http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35462

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                          • bikerphil
                            Master of XSology
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 8634
                            • South Flori-DUH

                            #28
                            All the front axles are exactly the same, Special and Standard. They are just installed left to right on the Standard, right to left on the Special. One difference not mentioned with the front wheels is IIRC, the Special has shorter headed 12MM bolts for the rotors to gain needed clearance for the different speedo drive. The Standard wheel has those tall headed 12MM bolts holding the rotors, speedo drive is not in the way. My 2¢.
                            Last edited by bikerphil; 11-20-2012, 05:08 PM.
                            2H7 (79) owned since '89
                            3H3 owned since '06

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                            • Bonz
                              XS-XJ Super Guru
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 3206
                              • Palmer Lake, Colorado

                              #29
                              On another subject,

                              The mufflers of Franken Bike will need replaced, corroded out underneath back by the outlets.

                              What Harley mufflers are a good option? I have a set offered to me from a 2006-2008 Road King (not sure the exact year at this instant), are these an option or is there a specific type of Harley muffler off a specific bike that works best?

                              Thanks for any info.
                              Howard

                              ZRX1200

                              BTW, ZRX carbs have the same spacing as the XS11... http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35462

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                              • motoman
                                Master of XSology
                                • Aug 2005
                                • 8413
                                • Grand Junction, Colorado

                                #30
                                Hi there Howard! IIRC, swapping out the rear 17" for the Special 16", spacers stay with their ajoining wheel. Also, for future reference, the manufacturer date was actual production date.........for the upcoming year model, which makes it an 80G. Example: Manufacturer date of my Venturer was 07/80. As Steve stated, any touring hardware would have been added by either dealer or owner. 81 Venturer was the only FACTORY produced tourer/dresser of the whole XS series. BTW, pretty sure I've seen that scoot already at CZ's, correct? If so, yup, an 80G.....and complete.....just add some TLC, minimal wrenching, and some cosmetic replacements. That Standard will give your really t-a-l-l stature some relief compared to the Special. HappyThanksgiving!
                                81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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