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Take a break, get some sleep. Go back to tuning when your rested and thinking straight.
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81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection
Previously owned
93 GSX600F
80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
81 XS1100 Special
81 CB750 C
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Good morning fellas. Bad news I'm afraid. Out working on the carbs this morning when I heard "pop". Looked down and see the timing cover cracked in-half with a hold in it. The timing plate somehow came loose, and probably bent the crank. The reason I say that is the timing plate wobbles when u crank it. Two dead clyinders. I1979 XS1100F
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WHAT??? The timing plate coming loose would have nothing to do with the crank bending. I am betting you lost two cylinders because you messed up the gap or totally broke one of the pick-up coils.
My best guess is that bolt in the center of the timing setup was not tight and worked its way out. Letting the timing plate wobble which cracked your timing cover. Realistically, you could run the bike without the timing cover on it.
I bet the bolt is bent that holds the timing plate in. You have to work pretty dang hard ad it to bend the crank on one of these engines.Life is what happens while your planning everything else!
When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.
81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection
Previously owned
93 GSX600F
80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
81 XS1100 Special
81 CB750 C
80 CB750 C
78 XS750Comment
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I pulled the bolt, it looks straight. My buddy says no-doubt the crank is bent
http://db.tt/XLJaGZ6XLast edited by IanDMacDonald; 06-21-2013, 06:53 AM.1979 XS1100F
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You most likely just didn't have the centrifugal advance unit lined up correctly. It only fits on ther one way CORRECTLY in the slots in the end on the crank.
It would take a LOT to bend one of these crankshafts.Last edited by BA80; 06-21-2013, 07:03 AM.Greg
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How in the hades do you bend the crank on one of these bikes?? If the crank is bent, then remove all the timing setup, hit the starter and watch the end of the crank where it attaches. See if you see it out of round in its movement.Life is what happens while your planning everything else!
When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.
81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection
Previously owned
93 GSX600F
80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
81 XS1100 Special
81 CB750 C
80 CB750 C
78 XS750Comment
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What cylinders are dead? I agree that its likely loss of ignition and not bent crank... on that note, did you ever find that cam cap nut?Originally posted by IanDMacDonald View Post
If it started and ran I highly doubt the nut could be responsible for this but hey you could blame it anyways. 
Did you have the advance unit off recently?Last edited by WMarshy; 06-21-2013, 08:45 AM.'79 XS11 F
Stock except K&N
'79 XS11 SF
Stock, no title.
'84 Chevy K-10 "Big Blue"
GM 350, Muncie SM465, NP208, GM 10 Bolt with 3.42gears turnin 31x10.5 Baja Claws
"What they do have is an implacable, unrelenting presence and movement that bespeaks massive power lurking behind paint and chrome. They don't wail like a screeching ninja, the don't rumble like a harley. They just growl like a spactic, stressed out badger waiting to rip your face off and eat your soul." Trainzz~RIP~Comment
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It.s my Scottish luck. I removed the timing plate and pulse cranked it. The reluctor wobbles.1979 XS1100F
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I think 3 & 4 were dead.1979 XS1100F
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What I meant was, at any point prior to assembly of the head and subsequent issue did you take off the timing plate assembly? If you did it may support Steve's point that maybe it wasn't put back on correctly.Originally posted by IanDMacDonald View Post
With a bent crank I would expect bad noises while it turns over. With the ignition assembly removed from the end of the crank, if it turns over without a tud or bad noise then I dont think you have a crank problem. As previously stated, the crank is hefty. Check the straightness of said ignition plate bolt by rolling it on a flat surface. Just eying it may not be enough.Last edited by WMarshy; 06-21-2013, 09:10 AM.'79 XS11 F
Stock except K&N
'79 XS11 SF
Stock, no title.
'84 Chevy K-10 "Big Blue"
GM 350, Muncie SM465, NP208, GM 10 Bolt with 3.42gears turnin 31x10.5 Baja Claws
"What they do have is an implacable, unrelenting presence and movement that bespeaks massive power lurking behind paint and chrome. They don't wail like a screeching ninja, the don't rumble like a harley. They just growl like a spactic, stressed out badger waiting to rip your face off and eat your soul." Trainzz~RIP~Comment
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Nope, I never touched it1979 XS1100F
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The sleeve that the bolt runs though (and the timing plate rests on) rests on a pin that holds it in lone. That pin needs to be lined up correctly with the sleeve. If the sleeve is not lined up right it will sit at a slight angle and it will wobble.
You are not going to bend the crank like that.Nathan
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Better cut your loss and give me the bike.
Maybe the PO did work to the pickup and the bolt just loosened up and caused it to fall our and break the cover..? Probably should use the Blue Lock-tight on that bolt for assembly...
Things dont usually just fall...*cough cough* ...but usually it happens after it was messed with. Either improper torque of lack of thread locker...Last edited by WMarshy; 06-21-2013, 09:24 AM.'79 XS11 F
Stock except K&N
'79 XS11 SF
Stock, no title.
'84 Chevy K-10 "Big Blue"
GM 350, Muncie SM465, NP208, GM 10 Bolt with 3.42gears turnin 31x10.5 Baja Claws
"What they do have is an implacable, unrelenting presence and movement that bespeaks massive power lurking behind paint and chrome. They don't wail like a screeching ninja, the don't rumble like a harley. They just growl like a spactic, stressed out badger waiting to rip your face off and eat your soul." Trainzz~RIP~Comment
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Ian, if that engine ran last night, and no one threw a bolt in the crankcase just for fun, I am convinced your crank is not bent. Fully remove the entire timing assembly, not just the plate, then watch the crank, and only the crank.Life is what happens while your planning everything else!
When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.
81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection
Previously owned
93 GSX600F
80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
81 XS1100 Special
81 CB750 C
80 CB750 C
78 XS750Comment
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