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  • JScro
    XSive
    • Feb 2012
    • 70
    • Austin, Tx.

    #1

    What did I just do... timing

    So I've still go my ever present oil leak from the left side. I decided to be brave, remove the timing mechanism and replace the seal. I marked the screws, and the timing plate. Got the seal replaced pretty easy, put everything back together.

    Then I went to start it, once. It made a funny noise, and now the timing plate is about 180 degrees from where I marked it.

    Uhhh... what did I just do and what do I do to fix it?
    Last edited by JScro; 04-19-2012, 07:01 PM.
  • BA80
    Doctor of XSology
    • Oct 2010
    • 9980
    • Tulsa, Ok

    #2
    Did you get this pin.....



    Lined up properly with this groove?......

    Greg

    Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

    ― Albert Einstein

    80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

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    • JScro
      XSive
      • Feb 2012
      • 70
      • Austin, Tx.

      #3
      I did, actually double checked that.

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      • BA80
        Doctor of XSology
        • Oct 2010
        • 9980
        • Tulsa, Ok

        #4
        What kind of "funny noise"?
        Greg

        Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

        ― Albert Einstein

        80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

        The list changes.

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        • Rasputin
          XS-XJ Super Guru
          • Apr 2008
          • 3179
          • Lacombe, Alberta, Canada

          #5
          Then most likely the timing plate is installed 180 degrees off. It does have a slight difference but can be put in wrong.
          2-79 XS1100 SF
          2-78 XS1100 E Best bike Ever
          80 XS 1100 SG Big bore kit but not fully running yet.
          Couple of more parts bikes of which 2 more will live!

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          • BA80
            Doctor of XSology
            • Oct 2010
            • 9980
            • Tulsa, Ok

            #6
            Originally posted by Rasputin
            Then most likely the timing plate is installed 180 degrees off. It does have a slight difference but can be put in wrong.
            Possible but it would have to be forced Doug. The slot is offset to one side.
            Greg

            Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

            ― Albert Einstein

            80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

            The list changes.

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            • Rasputin
              XS-XJ Super Guru
              • Apr 2008
              • 3179
              • Lacombe, Alberta, Canada

              #7
              I agree Greg but some members have pulled it off. So it was JAT to check.
              2-79 XS1100 SF
              2-78 XS1100 E Best bike Ever
              80 XS 1100 SG Big bore kit but not fully running yet.
              Couple of more parts bikes of which 2 more will live!

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              • JScro
                XSive
                • Feb 2012
                • 70
                • Austin, Tx.

                #8
                The screws and timing plate were definitely put back on where I marked them. Normally the bike cranks instantly, so the noise was just the bike hiccuping and not starting.

                I guess what I'm wondering is how should I go about getting the timing plate back to where it was marked.

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                • BA80
                  Doctor of XSology
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 9980
                  • Tulsa, Ok

                  #9
                  By the timing plate do you mean the round plate with the marks on it or the breaker plate that the pickup coils are mounted to.
                  Greg

                  Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                  ― Albert Einstein

                  80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                  The list changes.

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                  • JScro
                    XSive
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 70
                    • Austin, Tx.

                    #10
                    The round plate with the marks.

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                    • BA80
                      Doctor of XSology
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 9980
                      • Tulsa, Ok

                      #11
                      That plate is supposed to spin when you turn the engine over. Is it on there correctly and tight?
                      Greg

                      Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                      ― Albert Einstein

                      80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                      The list changes.

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                      • JScro
                        XSive
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 70
                        • Austin, Tx.

                        #12
                        LOL. Seriously? Guess I'm going to go back out and try to start it again and try to forget how stupid I feel right now.

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                        • BA80
                          Doctor of XSology
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 9980
                          • Tulsa, Ok

                          #13
                          Originally posted by JScro
                          LOL. Seriously? Guess I'm going to go back out and try to start it again and try to forget how stupid I feel right now.
                          Don't worry about that, we won't LET you forget. LOL


                          No problem JS, stuff occurs.
                          Greg

                          Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                          ― Albert Einstein

                          80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                          The list changes.

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                          • JScro
                            XSive
                            • Feb 2012
                            • 70
                            • Austin, Tx.

                            #14
                            Alright, so it will not start. It cranks, and it sputters a bit if I get it a little gas. However, it doesn't even start to turn over.

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                            • Rasputin
                              XS-XJ Super Guru
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 3179
                              • Lacombe, Alberta, Canada

                              #15
                              Originally posted by JScro
                              Alright, so it will not start. It cranks, and it sputters a bit if I get it a little gas. However, it doesn't even start to turn over.
                              Sorry if you think I am being rude but ... "Cranks and sputters" is not the same to us as "doesn't even start to turn over".
                              If you could be a tad more descriptive of the problem we would (possibly) not be telling you to check if it is seized because it will not "turn over" as opposed to it does crank over but "I have no spark on any piston". I know if I follow the thread I will have the general idea, but it is suprising how simple wording can change the whole theme of a thread. JAT
                              2-79 XS1100 SF
                              2-78 XS1100 E Best bike Ever
                              80 XS 1100 SG Big bore kit but not fully running yet.
                              Couple of more parts bikes of which 2 more will live!

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