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  • crazy steve
    XS-XJ Guru MODERATOR
    • Jan 2009
    • 7932
    • Beautiful outer Yelm, WA

    #1

    Parts Interchange Guide?

    Would there be any interest in a 'definitive' parts interchange guide tech tip? These questions come up on a regular basis, and it can get pretty confusing if you're not aware of some of the minor and major differences between models...
    70
    YES! I want to know what fits what!
    94.29%
    66
    I don't care, I'm chopping it anyway...
    0.00%
    0
    The parts are all different??!!
    1.43%
    1
    It's more fun to guess...
    4.29%
    3
    Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

    '78E original owner - resto project
    '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
    '82 XJ rebuild project
    '80SG restified, red SOLD
    '79F parts...
    '81H more parts...

    Other current bikes:
    '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
    '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
    '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
    Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
    Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...
  • natemoen
    Master of XSology
    • May 2010
    • 8640
    • Fargo

    #2
    I think I would take some time to really compile it. Might have to be a sticky and just let it evolve from there part by part.
    Nathan
    KD9ARL

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    1978 XS1100E
    K&N Filter
    #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
    OEM Exhaust
    ATK Fork Brace
    LED Dash lights
    Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

    Green Monster Coils
    SS Brake Lines
    Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

    In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

    Theodore Roosevelt

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    • crazy steve
      XS-XJ Guru MODERATOR
      • Jan 2009
      • 7932
      • Beautiful outer Yelm, WA

      #3
      No, this probably won't be something whomped up overnight....
      Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

      '78E original owner - resto project
      '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
      '82 XJ rebuild project
      '80SG restified, red SOLD
      '79F parts...
      '81H more parts...

      Other current bikes:
      '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
      '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
      '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
      Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
      Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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      • crazy steve
        XS-XJ Guru MODERATOR
        • Jan 2009
        • 7932
        • Beautiful outer Yelm, WA

        #4
        ...but it shouldn't be as bad as you might think. A fair chunk of this info is already posted somewhere on this site, so a guide could be 'shrunk' a bit by providing links to some of the stuff that's covered. And if it's limited to fit/function, that would rule out the differences that are only cosmetic. And you'd have to limit it to US models only, because trying to figure in the 'world' versions would make it hopelessly confusing for most members. Or maybe some non-US members would like to cook up the guides for their models?
        Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

        '78E original owner - resto project
        '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
        '82 XJ rebuild project
        '80SG restified, red SOLD
        '79F parts...
        '81H more parts...

        Other current bikes:
        '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
        '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
        '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
        Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
        Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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        • CatatonicBug
          Master of XSology
          • Oct 2008
          • 6117
          • Clinton, UT

          #5
          I think it would be a GREAT idea! listing things like wheels, TCI, Timing parts, camshafts, valves, fenders, sidecovers, etc. would really answer a lot of questions for a lot of people trying to do restorations. However, a lot of this information is available on the benefiscal site. Under each part number, it states what models the part is used on.

          There may be times when certain parts may have different part numbers, but will still fit the function on a different model. For example, the brake pedal on the LH is a unique part number, as is the same pedal on the LG. However, if I'm not mistaken, its the same shape as all the other models' pedals, even though the part number for the brake pedal on the E, F and G is different from that of the SF, SG, H and SH. That's 4 different part numbers for the same part - 2 of them are just painted black.
          1980 XS850SG - Sold
          1981 XS1100LH Midnight Special (Sold) - purchased 9/29/08
          Fully Vetterized and Dynojet Kit added, Heated Grips, Truck-Lite LED headlight, Accel Coils, Irridium plugs, TKAT Fork Brace, XS850LH Final Drive & Black SS Brake lines from Chacal.
          Here's my web page devoted to my bike! XS/XJ User's Manuals there, and the XJ1100 Service Manual and both XS1100 Service manuals (free download!).

          Whether you think you can, or you think you cannot - You're right.
          -H. Ford

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          • crazy steve
            XS-XJ Guru MODERATOR
            • Jan 2009
            • 7932
            • Beautiful outer Yelm, WA

            #6
            Originally posted by CatatonicBug
            There may be times when certain parts may have different part numbers, but will still fit the function on a different model. For example, the brake pedal on the LH is a unique part number, as is the same pedal on the LG. However, if I'm not mistaken, its the same shape as all the other models' pedals, even though the part number for the brake pedal on the E, F and G is different from that of the SF, SG, H and SH. That's 4 different part numbers for the same part - 2 of them are just painted black.
            That's the kind of thing I'm talking about; because of different finishes, the parts fiche show different numbers but doesn't tell you if it actually fits. And there actually are two different pedals; the '78-80 standard, and everything else. Slightly different shapes (the 'standard' pedal has less curve in it), enough that you might have issues getting pedal height good with a standard pedal in place of the Special unit...
            Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

            '78E original owner - resto project
            '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
            '82 XJ rebuild project
            '80SG restified, red SOLD
            '79F parts...
            '81H more parts...

            Other current bikes:
            '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
            '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
            '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
            Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
            Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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            • ViperRon
              XS-XJ Guru
              • Feb 2011
              • 1062
              • Woodstock, VA

              #7
              Great idea Steve.
              What my also be a helpfull is to make it flexible enough to include linkage to items that can be easily modified to fit certian models. Like for instance MIKES XS has the handlebar switches that can work with rewiring, Those things that are near impossible to find now are arlso quite common questions that pop up and someone here always has the answer.
              To fix the problem one should not make more assumptions than the minimum needed.

              Rodan
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khm6...liHntN91DHjHiS
              1980 G Silverbird
              Original Yamaha Fairfing and Bags
              1198 Overbore kit
              Grizzly 660 ACCT
              Barnett Clutch Springs
              R1 Clutch Fiber Plates
              122.5 Main Jets
              ACCT Mod
              Mac 4-2 Flare Tips
              Antivibe Bar ends
              Rear trunk add-on
              http://s1184.photobucket.com/albums/z329/viperron1/

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              • BA80
                Doctor of XSology
                • Oct 2010
                • 9980
                • Tulsa, Ok

                #8
                This sounds like a project equal in difficulty to writing an encyclopedia.
                Greg

                Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                ― Albert Einstein

                80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                The list changes.

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                • crazy steve
                  XS-XJ Guru MODERATOR
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 7932
                  • Beautiful outer Yelm, WA

                  #9
                  No, it doesn't have to be that detailed.... But it would be nice to have kind of a 'quick reference guide' to at least point you in the right direction. I don't know if linking to particular parts suppliers would necessarily be helpful as they do change things from time to time and finding dead links is frustrating.
                  Last edited by crazy steve; 04-05-2012, 06:07 PM.
                  Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

                  '78E original owner - resto project
                  '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
                  '82 XJ rebuild project
                  '80SG restified, red SOLD
                  '79F parts...
                  '81H more parts...

                  Other current bikes:
                  '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
                  '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
                  '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
                  Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
                  Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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                  • Shockman54
                    Truly XSive
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 145
                    • Minneapolis, MINN.

                    #10
                    perhaps just list the changes and differences for each year/model, then let people figure it out for themselves.
                    1979 xs special, just finished the top end rebuild and then i still have lots of work.
                    progress thus far...
                    http://s1268.photobucket.com/albums/...t=IMAG0202.jpg

                    "If it runs bad, it's usually the carbs. If the tires go flat, I suspect the carbs. If the wind blows the bike over, the carbs were probably to blame. If my wife yells at me about something, I tell her to talk to the carbs" -Incubus

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                    • ddragon63
                      XS-XJ Guru
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 1101
                      • Ridgefield, WA

                      #11
                      Why go thru all the trouble... I can just post my question and it will get answered by you Steve

                      Sounds like alot of work. I wish you luck my friend. I voted I'll just guess, so I can help you from having to write something as complex and hard to understand as the King James Bible....
                      Don
                      1979 XS1100SF "Old Man" bought by my Dad brand new in 79, customized in 80 with Vetter, Standard tank, and touring seat. I inherited in 02 when Dad passed. Been riding it since 09. No resto, bike is a survivor...

                      2007 RoadStar 1700 Midnight Silverado "The Black Pearl" Cobra Slash-downs, K&N filter. More mods to come


                      old:
                      1989 kawi ex500
                      1996 yzf-r6
                      1999 yzf-r1
                      2001 kawi zx-6r
                      2000 Ducati 748
                      2002 YZF-R1
                      2005 V-Star 1100 Classic

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                      • crazy steve
                        XS-XJ Guru MODERATOR
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 7932
                        • Beautiful outer Yelm, WA

                        #12
                        I'm waiting for the flood of 'I'm chopping it' votes to come in....
                        Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

                        '78E original owner - resto project
                        '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
                        '82 XJ rebuild project
                        '80SG restified, red SOLD
                        '79F parts...
                        '81H more parts...

                        Other current bikes:
                        '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
                        '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
                        '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
                        Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
                        Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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                        • Aches n Pains
                          XStremely XSive
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 349
                          • Reston, Va.

                          #13
                          Great idea, Steve.
                          1995 KZ100P
                          Pods, jets, pipes, cam adjuster, oil cooler

                          1977 Ironhead - custom build
                          Hot engine, custom frame, KZ front and rear, high torque starter, alternator conversion, Progressive shocks, Thunderheart wiring, Dyna ignition, oil cooler, Dakota Digital instruments, etc.

                          Sold all my XS's to Eastcoaster but still love to keep up with you guys. This is the best cycle forum on the web.

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                          • TomB
                            XSive Maximus
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 967
                            • Cumbria, UK

                            #14
                            I would have thought anyone chopping their bike would care lots what parts would fit from other models.

                            The folk I'd have thought wouldn't care are the original restorers, why would they want to know what none original part would fit their bike.

                            Anyway great idea.
                            Tom
                            1982 5K7 Sport, restored to original from a wreck
                            1978 2H9 (E), my original XS11, mostly original
                            1980 2H9 monoshocked (avatar pic)http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...psf30aa1c8.jpg
                            1982 XJ1100, waiting resto to original

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                            • BA80
                              Doctor of XSology
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 9980
                              • Tulsa, Ok

                              #15
                              Originally posted by crazy steve
                              I'm waiting for the flood of 'I'm chopping it' votes to come in....

                              SEE.......see what you've gotten yourself into?
                              Greg

                              Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                              ― Albert Einstein

                              80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                              The list changes.

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