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  • fredintoon
    Master of XSology
    • Mar 2004
    • 6795
    • Saskatoon SK

    #16
    Hi Dave,
    here's a quick fix; take that nasty plastic sail off the bike.
    If it ain't there the exhaust gases can't get trapped behind it and it can't throw the exhaust noise back at you neither.
    Fred Hill, S'toon
    XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
    "The Flying Pumpkin"

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    • skids
      XS-XJ Super Guru
      • Jul 2002
      • 5050
      • Florissant, CO, USA

      #17
      Originally posted by fredintoon
      Hi Dave,
      here's a quick fix; take that nasty plastic sail off the bike.
      If it ain't there the exhaust gases can't get trapped behind it and it can't throw the exhaust noise back at you neither.
      The only time that I heard of exhaust fumes making it to the rider was when Dave Hogue had a bad head/exhaust crush washer. Camp XS '98 in Gillette, Wyoming? If you are in motion, you should net get any fumes behind your Vetter faring windscreen!
      Skids (Sid Hansen)

      Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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      • trbig
        Simply used to just post A LOT!
        • Nov 2005
        • 7838
        • Ada, Oklahoma

        #18
        Originally posted by skids
        The only time that I heard of exhaust fumes making it to the rider was when Dave Hogue had a bad head/exhaust crush washer. Camp XS '98 in Gillette, Wyoming? If you are in motion, you should net get any fumes behind your Vetter faring windscreen!

        Obviously someone who's never ridden with a Vetter or Windjammer. Every person I know that's used one has said the same thing.
        Try your hardest to be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.

        You can live to be 100, as long as you give up everything that would make you want to live to be 100!

        Current bikes:
        '06 Suzuki DR650
        *'82 XJ1100 with the 1179 kit. "Mad Maxim"
        '82 XJ1100 Completely stock fixer-upper
        '82 XJ1100 Bagger fixer-upper
        '82 XJ1100 Motor/frame and lots of boxes of parts
        '82 XJ1100 Parts bike
        '81 XS1100 Special
        '81 YZ250
        '80 XS850 Special
        '80 XR100
        *Crashed/Totalled, still own

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        • EricHa
          Truly XSive
          • Mar 2009
          • 198
          • IL

          #19
          That is a Jardine 4 into 1 that you have there. The header pipes are individual and removable from the rear megaphone. I wonder if one could be leaking below the bike.

          I removed my Jardine baffle and am trying a Vance Hines competition baffle in its place (more ricey ). The Jardine baffle is actually fairly quiet. My brother thought it was too quiet, but his 2009 Bonneville sounds like an air compressor. Post a pic and I can tell you if it's a Jardine. If not, you could always buy a Vance Hines street baffle as it can be made to fit. Dynoman.net sells them. I had to grind the inner cone of the baffle down to get it to go far enough into the megaphone to match the baffle bolt hole.
          1979 Yamaha XS1100SF (gone)
          Airbox w/K&N element
          Jardine 4 into 1
          145 mains, 45 pilots

          1996 Ducati 900SS CR
          1977 Kawasaki KZ900-A5
          1975 Honda CB550K

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          • skids
            XS-XJ Super Guru
            • Jul 2002
            • 5050
            • Florissant, CO, USA

            #20
            Originally posted by trbig
            Obviously someone who's never ridden with a Vetter or Windjammer. Every person I know that's used one has said the same thing.
            Well Trbig, I guess that makes me special because I have three windjammers and have not been fumed. Mine do not have the vents.
            Skids (Sid Hansen)

            Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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            • cywelchjr
              XS-XJ Super Guru(Deceased)
              • Oct 2008
              • 4450
              • Sacramento, CA

              #21
              Originally posted by trbig
              Obviously someone who's never ridden with a Vetter or Windjammer. Every person I know that's used one has said the same thing.
              You will get that with the unvented windshield. Get the vented windshield for the fairing and open the vents and the problem goes away. Also the pushing from behind goes away as well, which is why I keep my vents open year round. Both the smell is eliminated and the vacuum effect is gone. I also prefer a little shorter windshield so I can get my head up into the air just a little, or duck slightly and be out of the wind.
              Cy

              1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
              Duplicolor Mirage Paint Job (Purple/Green)
              Vetter Windjammer IV
              Vetter hard bags & Trunk
              OEM Luggage Rack
              Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
              Spade Fuse Box
              Turn Signal Auto Cancel Mod
              750 FD Mod
              TC Spin on Oil Filter Adapter (temp removed)
              XJ1100 Front Footpegs
              XJ1100 Shocks

              I was always taught to respect my elders, but it keeps getting harder to find one.

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              • trbig
                Simply used to just post A LOT!
                • Nov 2005
                • 7838
                • Ada, Oklahoma

                #22
                Originally posted by skids
                Well Trbig, I guess that makes me special because I have three windjammers and have not been fumed. Mine do not have the vents.


                LOL.. OK. If you have wind hitting you from behind, then you're going to get some exhaust smell. It's not getting fumed, as you say, but you will be able to smell it. However your setup.. or denial.. is, then I'm telling you it's a normal occurance from a correctly functioning, non-leaking exhaust and a normal Vetter or Windjammer setup. If you've got wind hitting you from behind like normal, and you don't smell any exhaust, then I'm betting others smell it on you when you get off the bike.
                Try your hardest to be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.

                You can live to be 100, as long as you give up everything that would make you want to live to be 100!

                Current bikes:
                '06 Suzuki DR650
                *'82 XJ1100 with the 1179 kit. "Mad Maxim"
                '82 XJ1100 Completely stock fixer-upper
                '82 XJ1100 Bagger fixer-upper
                '82 XJ1100 Motor/frame and lots of boxes of parts
                '82 XJ1100 Parts bike
                '81 XS1100 Special
                '81 YZ250
                '80 XS850 Special
                '80 XR100
                *Crashed/Totalled, still own

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                • Joab
                  XStremely XSive
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 472
                  • Ozark, Alabama

                  #23
                  Did they ever make a vented set up for the PacificO (Nate:P) fairing?
                  Joab

                  "If nothing else, it will be interesting..."
                  ______________________________________________
                  1979 XS1100SF
                  1972 XS2 650
                  ______________________________________________
                  Ozark, Alabama

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                  • cywelchjr
                    XS-XJ Super Guru(Deceased)
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 4450
                    • Sacramento, CA

                    #24
                    Originally posted by trbig
                    LOL.. OK. If you have wind hitting you from behind, then you're going to get some exhaust smell. It's not getting fumed, as you say, but you will be able to smell it. However your setup.. or denial.. is, then I'm telling you it's a normal occurance from a correctly functioning, non-leaking exhaust and a normal Vetter or Windjammer setup. If you've got wind hitting you from behind like normal, and you don't smell any exhaust, then I'm betting others smell it on you when you get off the bike.
                    I have to agree with tod here, if you don't have the vented shield you're going to get fumes sucked into the area behind the fairing. It's why the vented shields exist, to stop that from happening. I've run Vetter fairings both ways and you do get fumes without the vents. You might not smell them if the windshield is short enough though.
                    Cy

                    1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
                    Duplicolor Mirage Paint Job (Purple/Green)
                    Vetter Windjammer IV
                    Vetter hard bags & Trunk
                    OEM Luggage Rack
                    Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
                    Spade Fuse Box
                    Turn Signal Auto Cancel Mod
                    750 FD Mod
                    TC Spin on Oil Filter Adapter (temp removed)
                    XJ1100 Front Footpegs
                    XJ1100 Shocks

                    I was always taught to respect my elders, but it keeps getting harder to find one.

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                    • Diskman01
                      XStremely XSive
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 263
                      • Sioux Falls, SD

                      #25
                      Alrighty.. I removed the fairing since it was so warm today and around town it kinda sucks. And I prefer the original square headlight on the 78 instead of the round sealed beam on the fairing. lol.

                      Ya, the pressure pushing me forwards does get old after a while. I can see where the exhaust will be sucked back in.

                      Upon further inspection of the exhaust, I honestly don't see how it comes apart. It appears to be one piece from the headers to the muffler.

                      Will snap more pics I guess.
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                      • natemoen
                        Master of XSology
                        • May 2010
                        • 8640
                        • Fargo

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Joab
                        Did they ever make a vented set up for the PacificO (Nate:P) fairing?
                        Nope. But the vents are easy to add. These here are marketed for ultralight aircraft but they are the same and way cheaper than the ones Vetter sells.

                        Nathan
                        KD9ARL

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                        1978 XS1100E
                        K&N Filter
                        #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                        OEM Exhaust
                        ATK Fork Brace
                        LED Dash lights
                        Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

                        Green Monster Coils
                        SS Brake Lines
                        Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

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                        • Joab
                          XStremely XSive
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 472
                          • Ozark, Alabama

                          #27
                          Originally posted by natemoen
                          Nope. But the vents are easy to add. These here are marketed for ultralight aircraft but they are the same and way cheaper than the ones Vetter sells.

                          http://www.ultralightnews.ca/airvents_uslk/
                          Page is book marked and filed away for when Alabama deems me worthy of my tax returns. Thanks Nate!
                          Joab

                          "If nothing else, it will be interesting..."
                          ______________________________________________
                          1979 XS1100SF
                          1972 XS2 650
                          ______________________________________________
                          Ozark, Alabama

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                          • EricHa
                            Truly XSive
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 198
                            • IL

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Diskman01
                            Upon further inspection of the exhaust, I honestly don't see how it comes apart. It appears to be one piece from the headers to the muffler.

                            Will snap more pics I guess.
                            The head pipes slip into the megaphone collector....


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                            But the baffle should be held in by a bolt or screw on the backside of the megaphone. The Jardine baffle looks like this.......


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                            Last edited by EricHa; 03-19-2012, 06:49 AM.
                            1979 Yamaha XS1100SF (gone)
                            Airbox w/K&N element
                            Jardine 4 into 1
                            145 mains, 45 pilots

                            1996 Ducati 900SS CR
                            1977 Kawasaki KZ900-A5
                            1975 Honda CB550K

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                            • trbig
                              Simply used to just post A LOT!
                              • Nov 2005
                              • 7838
                              • Ada, Oklahoma

                              #29
                              Originally posted by EricHa

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                              Sorry... just had to wipe the drool off my keyboard.
                              Try your hardest to be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.

                              You can live to be 100, as long as you give up everything that would make you want to live to be 100!

                              Current bikes:
                              '06 Suzuki DR650
                              *'82 XJ1100 with the 1179 kit. "Mad Maxim"
                              '82 XJ1100 Completely stock fixer-upper
                              '82 XJ1100 Bagger fixer-upper
                              '82 XJ1100 Motor/frame and lots of boxes of parts
                              '82 XJ1100 Parts bike
                              '81 XS1100 Special
                              '81 YZ250
                              '80 XS850 Special
                              '80 XR100
                              *Crashed/Totalled, still own

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                              • XSive_speed
                                XSive
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 45
                                • Cedar Rapids, IA

                                #30
                                Just a thought here, but I recommend checking that the crush washer / gasket is installed between the head and header pipes.

                                I've also been getting the exhaust smell with my windjammer installed, but for the moment have assumed it is due to the lack of these gaskets. Have a set on order from J & P, and will let you know if that fixes it for me.

                                Good luck,
                                John (XSive_Speed)

                                '80 XS1100G Standard
                                - 4 - 1 exhaust (probably Mac)
                                - UNI air filter

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