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  • Diskman01
    XStremely XSive
    • Mar 2011
    • 263
    • Sioux Falls, SD

    #1

    Exhaust Questions.. Yes, I searched.. :)

    1978 XS1100

    Dug the old girl out of storage since it's been un-seasonably warm here the past few weeks! Hit 80 today! Normal high is like 40 with snow on the ground still!

    Anywho, I put the fairing back on as the wind can get a bit cold still. One thing I notice is the extreme build up of exhaust behind the windshield. Especially since the old girl has taken to burning about 1 quart every 500. No smoke that I can see, but I can sure smell it. Whew.

    Someone removed the original exhaust (of course), and installed some farty 4 into 1. I'm VERY tired of my nice clean XS sounding like a 17year olds riced out Civic.

    Hoping I can kill 2 birds with 1 stone here. If I cut off the stupid fart can and replace it with a new Harley muffler, will it mellow it out? Would extending the tail out more help too??


    Here is a pic I just snapped of my current exhaust. Is it possible to replace it with a JD muffler and some welding?

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  • cywelchjr
    XS-XJ Super Guru(Deceased)
    • Oct 2008
    • 4450
    • Sacramento, CA

    #2
    IMHO the problem is that it's a 4-1, where a 4-2 IMHO sounds much better rather like dual exhaust on a V8 engine on a car. A Harley muffler might help with the sound some, but it's not going to help with the fumes, for that you need the vents in the windshield, which can be bought from Craig Vetter on his website along with instructions on how to install them, with them open then get rid of the vacuum behind the windshield and makes for more fresh air while still keeping the wind off you.

    I think that might be a Mac exhaust which I've heard some say just don't sound very good, a mac 4-2 might sound a bit better but I don't know or sure as I have as set of Jardine pipes on mine.
    Cy

    1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
    Duplicolor Mirage Paint Job (Purple/Green)
    Vetter Windjammer IV
    Vetter hard bags & Trunk
    OEM Luggage Rack
    Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
    Spade Fuse Box
    Turn Signal Auto Cancel Mod
    750 FD Mod
    TC Spin on Oil Filter Adapter (temp removed)
    XJ1100 Front Footpegs
    XJ1100 Shocks

    I was always taught to respect my elders, but it keeps getting harder to find one.

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    • crazy steve
      XS-XJ Guru MODERATOR
      • Jan 2009
      • 7932
      • Beautiful outer Yelm, WA

      #3
      I think a single harley muffler will end up being too restrictive. You might check to see if you have a removable baffle, and if you do wrap it with some muffler fiberglass. You'll probably have to replace the glass on a regular basis, but that might do the trick....
      Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

      '78E original owner - resto project
      '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
      '82 XJ rebuild project
      '80SG restified, red SOLD
      '79F parts...
      '81H more parts...

      Other current bikes:
      '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
      '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
      '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
      Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
      Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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      • Diskman01
        XStremely XSive
        • Mar 2011
        • 263
        • Sioux Falls, SD

        #4
        Originally posted by crazy steve
        I think a single harley muffler will end up being too restrictive. You might check to see if you have a removable baffle, and if you do wrap it with some muffler fiberglass. You'll probably have to replace the glass on a regular basis, but that might do the trick....
        Ill look tomorrow and see if I can pull the cores.. I have some graphite wrap that I used on my CB650 mufflers once... Ill give that a try..

        Otherwise... Whats a good quiet exhaust I should look for? Besides original (HA).
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        • Diskman01
          XStremely XSive
          • Mar 2011
          • 263
          • Sioux Falls, SD

          #5
          Originally posted by cywelchjr
          A Harley muffler might help with the sound some, but it's not going to help with the fumes, for that you need the vents in the windshield, which can be bought from Craig Vetter on his website along with instructions on how to install them, with them open then get rid of the vacuum behind the windshield and makes for more fresh air while still keeping the wind off you.
          I looked on the site but couldn't find them. I DID hit up eBay tho. I need a new windshield anyway (yellow/cracks) so I'll order a vented one from the get-go. Thanks for the info!
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          • Schming
            XS-XJ Guru
            • Jul 2009
            • 2072
            • Pittsburgh,PA

            #6
            Here's...

            ...the link, to aftermarket pipes for our Elevens, courtesy of the UK site:



            Have You thought about using a Super Trapp muffler, which is tuneable for sound and performance ?
            Last edited by Schming; 03-18-2012, 06:48 AM. Reason: Fixed spelling
            1980 XS1100G "Dolly G" Full Dresser (with a coat of many colors )
            1979 XS1100SF (stock-euro mods planned)
            1984 XV700L Virago (to be hot-modded)
            1983 XJ750MK Midnight Maxim (semi-restored DD)
            1977 XS650D ( patiently awaiting resto)

            Sometimes it takes a whole tank of gas before you can think straight.

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            • trbig
              Simply used to just post A LOT!
              • Nov 2005
              • 7838
              • Ada, Oklahoma

              #7
              On the exhaust smell thing, sadly, with a full Windjammer style fairing like that, it does make a big vacuum that fills in from behind. I get tired of mine on long trips, because you get more pressure pushing on you from behind than you do from the front. It puts added pressure on your hands and wrists having to hold yourself off the bars.


              I just ordered two of these for my XS. Reviews are good on it. I need to get them on quickly for a trip next week, so I'll let you know how they do. I bought some extra packing for the baffles, so it may be bit of experimenting to get the sound I want.


              Try your hardest to be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.

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              Current bikes:
              '06 Suzuki DR650
              *'82 XJ1100 with the 1179 kit. "Mad Maxim"
              '82 XJ1100 Completely stock fixer-upper
              '82 XJ1100 Bagger fixer-upper
              '82 XJ1100 Motor/frame and lots of boxes of parts
              '82 XJ1100 Parts bike
              '81 XS1100 Special
              '81 YZ250
              '80 XS850 Special
              '80 XR100
              *Crashed/Totalled, still own

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              • skids
                XS-XJ Super Guru
                • Jul 2002
                • 5051
                • Florissant, CO, USA

                #8
                Is that a Jardine 4 into 1? You know they don't make those anymore. You might consider selling/trading those. I put some harley muffs on stock pipes and the tone was a higher pitch (I didn't like the sound). They did quiet the noise however.
                Skids (Sid Hansen)

                Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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                • madmax-im
                  Master of XSology
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 6753
                  • Southern Comfort...Wendell NC

                  #9
                  Originally posted by skids
                  Is that a Jardine 4 into 1? You know they don't make those anymore. You might consider selling/trading those. I put some harley muffs on stock pipes and the tone was a higher pitch (I didn't like the sound). They did quiet the noise however.
                  Yeah i was gonna say the same thing...Thats a Jardine "spaghetti" exhaust...damn hard to find...dont cut that up...thats one of the best aftermarket exhaust for our bikes... all but unobtainable these days. That exhaust alone would sell for as much or even more than the bike.
                  1980 XS650G Special-Two
                  1993 Honda ST1100

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                  • crazy steve
                    XS-XJ Guru MODERATOR
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 7932
                    • Beautiful outer Yelm, WA

                    #10
                    Originally posted by trbig
                    I just ordered two of these for my XS. Reviews are good on it. I need to get them on quickly for a trip next week, so I'll let you know how they do. I bought some extra packing for the baffles, so it may be bit of experimenting to get the sound I want.

                    http://www.jcwhitney.com/dunstall-st...rid=c14672u0j3
                    Yeah, let us know how those work out. I've got a set of pipes that somebody welded some GS1000 mufflers to and I like the look of the shorter mufflers compared to the long standard muffs, but they bungled the mounts pretty badly...
                    Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

                    '78E original owner - resto project
                    '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
                    '82 XJ rebuild project
                    '80SG restified, red SOLD
                    '79F parts...
                    '81H more parts...

                    Other current bikes:
                    '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
                    '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
                    '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
                    Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
                    Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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                    • Diskman01
                      XStremely XSive
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 263
                      • Sioux Falls, SD

                      #11
                      Alrighty.. Cutting the exhaust is OFF THE TABLE now.

                      Will see if I can pull the baffle and re-wrap it. But, it IS 80 degrees, 2:30 in the afternoon and sunny RIGHT NOW.. Plus, I put 15 bux in the tank before I parked it last night...

                      Last thing I'm gonna do right now is take apart a nice running bike. I'm gonna go get me some sunburn!

                      1) Fire up Internet Explorer
                      2) http://www.yahoo.com
                      3) type "www.mapquest.com" into the Yahoo search page.
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                      • Joab
                        XStremely XSive
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 472
                        • Ozark, Alabama

                        #12
                        Burn well and enjoy it my friend....burn well and enjoy it.
                        Joab

                        "If nothing else, it will be interesting..."
                        ______________________________________________
                        1979 XS1100SF
                        1972 XS2 650
                        ______________________________________________
                        Ozark, Alabama

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                        • trbig
                          Simply used to just post A LOT!
                          • Nov 2005
                          • 7838
                          • Ada, Oklahoma

                          #13
                          Originally posted by crazy steve
                          Yeah, let us know how those work out. I've got a set of pipes that somebody welded some GS1000 mufflers to and I like the look of the shorter mufflers compared to the long standard muffs, but they bungled the mounts pretty badly...

                          I don't know if you read the stats on those, but they are very long. The ones that were a little shorter were double that price. I just wanted something to replace the crappy welds I've done to where the collector and muffler meet, as well as the road rash on the right side where I wrecked it. It's gonna make me sick to cut off the left side since it's still in pretty good shape, but these muffs don't have the collector.
                          Try your hardest to be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.

                          You can live to be 100, as long as you give up everything that would make you want to live to be 100!

                          Current bikes:
                          '06 Suzuki DR650
                          *'82 XJ1100 with the 1179 kit. "Mad Maxim"
                          '82 XJ1100 Completely stock fixer-upper
                          '82 XJ1100 Bagger fixer-upper
                          '82 XJ1100 Motor/frame and lots of boxes of parts
                          '82 XJ1100 Parts bike
                          '81 XS1100 Special
                          '81 YZ250
                          '80 XS850 Special
                          '80 XR100
                          *Crashed/Totalled, still own

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                          • DGXSER
                            Doctor of XSology(Deceased)
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 12001
                            • Cincinnati, Ohio

                            #14
                            No spaghetti there. Those are 4-1, the spaghetti pipes are the 4-2.
                            Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

                            When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

                            81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
                            80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


                            Previously owned
                            93 GSX600F
                            80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
                            81 XS1100 Special
                            81 CB750 C
                            80 CB750 C
                            78 XS750

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                            • crazy steve
                              XS-XJ Guru MODERATOR
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 7932
                              • Beautiful outer Yelm, WA

                              #15
                              Originally posted by trbig
                              I don't know if you read the stats on those, but they are very long.
                              That's longer than I thought... but still not as long as the 31" stockers...
                              Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

                              '78E original owner - resto project
                              '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
                              '82 XJ rebuild project
                              '80SG restified, red SOLD
                              '79F parts...
                              '81H more parts...

                              Other current bikes:
                              '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
                              '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
                              '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
                              Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
                              Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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