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    hey all. i just happened to come across the side cover sticker on my 81SH, and it says "Regular (Leaded ) 91 Octane Min". ive been using Reg unleaded 87 Octane without any issues except probably mpg, but havent ckd as of yet.

    Max

    81 XS1100SH Black Beast Mutt
    Kerker 4/1
    stock carbs and air box.
    78 headlite, handle bars,
    1 set of ea-160/85mph guages,
    crash bars, cruise control

    Other 2 Wheelers
    78 XS1100E jet kit, Kerker 4/1, air pods, jet kit-RIP
    94 CBR1000F jet kit,Two Bros pipe, K&N Filter

  • #2
    Because of the design of the combustion chambers and the ignition advance system these bikes will burn just about any grade without a problem. In fact I could not tell a difference between regular and the better stuff.
    Fastmover
    "Just plant us in the damn garden with the stupid
    lion". SHL
    78 XS1100e

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    • #3
      ?

      does anybody know whats supposed to be under the spring loaded clipped inside cover? mine's empty.
      Max

      81 XS1100SH Black Beast Mutt
      Kerker 4/1
      stock carbs and air box.
      78 headlite, handle bars,
      1 set of ea-160/85mph guages,
      crash bars, cruise control

      Other 2 Wheelers
      78 XS1100E jet kit, Kerker 4/1, air pods, jet kit-RIP
      94 CBR1000F jet kit,Two Bros pipe, K&N Filter

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      • #4
        Leaded?

        I am a little more suprised that it says leaded gasoline, as the U.S. was switching over to unleaded by the early 80's, so you think that the placard would say unleaded (or both).

        I have read that there are diffent ratings for octane so I wouldn't worry too much that it says 90.

        I have run mine on 87 and 89 octane and not seen much of a difference. For the small cost difference, I run 89 octane for "peace-of-mind".
        1979 F
        Mac 4-2 Exhaust
        T-Kat Fork Brace
        Spade Fuse Box Mod
        Stainless Steel Braided Brake Lines
        140.0 Main Jets
        45.0 Pilot Jets
        266 X-2 Needle Jets

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        • #5
          The octane numbers back then were different then they are now. Regular is still basically the same now really as far as anti knock as it was back then, but they use a different formula that comes up with different numbers. If you look on the pumps, the octane shown on the pumps is a combination of research octane and pump octane, that sticker is based on research octane which is higher, pump octane is lower and they average the two for the number shown on the pump.
          Cy

          1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
          Duplicolor Mirage Paint Job (Purple/Green)
          Vetter Windjammer IV
          Vetter hard bags & Trunk
          OEM Luggage Rack
          Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
          Spade Fuse Box
          Turn Signal Auto Cancel Mod
          750 FD Mod
          TC Spin on Oil Filter Adapter (temp removed)
          XJ1100 Front Footpegs
          XJ1100 Shocks

          I was always taught to respect my elders, but it keeps getting harder to find one.

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          • #6
            Clip

            I use the clip to hold my insurance card and registration card . . . I don't know if that is what it was designed for!?
            1979 F
            Mac 4-2 Exhaust
            T-Kat Fork Brace
            Spade Fuse Box Mod
            Stainless Steel Braided Brake Lines
            140.0 Main Jets
            45.0 Pilot Jets
            266 X-2 Needle Jets

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            • #7
              What about leaded vs. unleaded? Should I be putting in a "lead substitute" to protect my valves?
              "Galaxy" 1982 XJ1100J, 1983 XV handlebars, new fusebox, homemade SS wind screen and SS muffler heat shields, homemade grab bar extension and luggage rack. XS750 140 mph speedo, '81 Venture oil cooler, V-Max ACCT, Yahman YICS Eliminator, 1st and 2nd gear Dremel fix.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by mjpxs11sh View Post
                does anybody know whats supposed to be under the spring loaded clipped inside cover? mine's empty.
                Pretty sure it was for the special cable used to compress the shocks for changing the rear tire. Then you could remove the axle without it interfering with the exhaust. It works great for document storage and a few Xtra bucks for emergency gas.
                2H7 (79) owned since '89
                3H3 owned since '06

                "If it ain't broke, modify it"

                ☮

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by bikerphil View Post
                  Pretty sure it was for the special cable used to compress the shocks for changing the rear tire. Then you could remove the axle without it interfering with the exhaust. It works great for document storage and a few Xtra bucks for emergency gas.
                  That would be good in theory but my 79SF and others also have it which did not require the use of the cable. Myself I use it for document storage. I use a resealable bag as well so no unwanted water gets to them though.
                  2-79 XS1100 SF
                  2-78 XS1100 E Best bike Ever
                  80 XS 1100 SG Big bore kit but not fully running yet.
                  Couple of more parts bikes of which 2 more will live!

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                  • #10
                    ?

                    i would have thought the compartment was there for something.
                    the fuel i guess doesnt matter, we're stuck with ethanol that doesnt burn as well, but like i noted, my bike doesnt seem to care what it runs on, it just runs. i dont remember the manual specifying anything in the compartment. ins card and registration sounds like a good use. thanks all
                    Max

                    81 XS1100SH Black Beast Mutt
                    Kerker 4/1
                    stock carbs and air box.
                    78 headlite, handle bars,
                    1 set of ea-160/85mph guages,
                    crash bars, cruise control

                    Other 2 Wheelers
                    78 XS1100E jet kit, Kerker 4/1, air pods, jet kit-RIP
                    94 CBR1000F jet kit,Two Bros pipe, K&N Filter

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                    • #11
                      original owner

                      When I got my bike !980 G the cable for tire change was in the compartment and that is where I keep it. The wrench for use putting the cable on was in the tool pouch and as tight as the pouch is it would have never fit in there.
                      To fix the problem one should not make more assumptions than the minimum needed.

                      Rodan
                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khm6...liHntN91DHjHiS
                      1980 G Silverbird
                      Original Yamaha Fairfing and Bags
                      1198 Overbore kit
                      Grizzly 660 ACCT
                      Barnett Clutch Springs
                      R1 Clutch Fiber Plates
                      122.5 Main Jets
                      ACCT Mod
                      Mac 4-2 Flare Tips
                      Antivibe Bar ends
                      Rear trunk add-on
                      http://s1184.photobucket.com/albums/z329/viperron1/

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                      • #12
                        My '78 came with the tire cable in the tool pouch with the rest of the tools; it's a very tight squeeze, but it does fit....
                        Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

                        '78E original owner - resto project
                        '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
                        '82 XJ rebuild project
                        '80SG restified, red SOLD
                        '79F parts...
                        '81H more parts...

                        Other current bikes:
                        '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
                        '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
                        '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
                        Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
                        Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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                        • #13
                          better man

                          Steve you are a better man than me I just can't get it in I have tried .
                          To fix the problem one should not make more assumptions than the minimum needed.

                          Rodan
                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khm6...liHntN91DHjHiS
                          1980 G Silverbird
                          Original Yamaha Fairfing and Bags
                          1198 Overbore kit
                          Grizzly 660 ACCT
                          Barnett Clutch Springs
                          R1 Clutch Fiber Plates
                          122.5 Main Jets
                          ACCT Mod
                          Mac 4-2 Flare Tips
                          Antivibe Bar ends
                          Rear trunk add-on
                          http://s1184.photobucket.com/albums/z329/viperron1/

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                          • #14
                            I've ALWAYS ran super in ALL my bikes... I like to error on the side furthest away from detonation....

                            As for lead substitute they really don't make anything that actually really "substitutes" leaded gas, unless you wanna run leaded race fuel. A little marvels Mystery Oil or such in the tank every now and then will help buffer the valve to head impact. I squirt a little Lucas Fuel System treatment in the tank of the XS every other tank. I buy it by the quart for my diesel. Its got a chemical in in that works as an upper cylinder lube. I like to pretend its lubing my valves I don't know that it actually is I just like to hope
                            Don
                            1979 XS1100SF "Old Man" bought by my Dad brand new in 79, customized in 80 with Vetter, Standard tank, and touring seat. I inherited in 02 when Dad passed. Been riding it since 09. No resto, bike is a survivor...

                            2007 RoadStar 1700 Midnight Silverado "The Black Pearl" Cobra Slash-downs, K&N filter. More mods to come


                            old:
                            1989 kawi ex500
                            1996 yzf-r6
                            1999 yzf-r1
                            2001 kawi zx-6r
                            2000 Ducati 748
                            2002 YZF-R1
                            2005 V-Star 1100 Classic

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by mjpxs11sh View Post
                              hey all. i just happened to come across the side cover sticker on my 81SH, and it says "Regular (Leaded ) 91 Octane Min". ive been using Reg unleaded 87 Octane without any issues except probably mpg, but havent ckd as of yet.

                              That decal says "RESEARCH" octane. That is the least severe method to rate gasoline. The most severe rating is "MOTOR" octane. If you look at the pump, you may find "R+M/2". 87 at R+M/2 is probably at or more than 91 RESEARCH octane.
                              Marty (in Mississippi)
                              XS1100SG
                              XS650SK
                              XS650SH
                              XS650G
                              XS6502F
                              XS650E

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