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  • #16
    Originally posted by mayantiger View Post
    OEM- no, I am talking about parts 4,5, & 8 on this schematic. But I have the keepers, stems and springs organized by valve as well (everything in that photo above, plus a random bucket+shim).

    http://www.bikebandit.com/houseofmot...m8246sch220914
    Unless you are replacing the valve guides for some reason (ware is about the only reason to pull them out) #6 is not going to be accessible and not really necessary to change.

    #4 and #5 are the nut and washer that go on top of the cam caps.
    Nathan
    KD9ARL

    μολὼν λαβέ

    1978 XS1100E
    K&N Filter
    #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
    OEM Exhaust
    ATK Fork Brace
    LED Dash lights
    Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

    Green Monster Coils
    SS Brake Lines
    Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

    In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

    Theodore Roosevelt

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    • #17
      Seats

      Thats cool. As to the valve spring seats, you do want to make sure they are all there, they are hardend steel and their main function is to protect the alum head from ware and damage. They do add slightly to spring presure but they are needed for longevity of the head

      Originally posted by mayantiger View Post
      OEM- no, I am talking about parts 4,5, & 8 on this schematic. But I have the keepers, stems and springs organized by valve as well (everything in that photo above, plus a random bucket+shim).

      http://www.bikebandit.com/houseofmot...m8246sch220914

      Pete- easier than I expected, thanks!

      Don- Pure curiosity. But now, the only way out is through!

      Mack/Ron- Yep, this is what I was looking for. Gnar. Wish I'd have know about glass beading before I tore it down. Now its off to the store for a caliper.
      1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
      1980 XS1100 Special
      1990 V Max
      1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
      1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
      1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
      1974 CB750-Four



      Past/pres Car's
      1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8

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      • #18
        This is the one

        I did with varsol and brushes.






        Cleaned it then polished it.
        mack
        79 XS 1100 SF Special
        HERMES
        original owner
        http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps6932d5df.jpg

        81 XS 1100 LH MNS
        SPICA
        http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad305/mack-055/2.jpg

        78 XS 11E
        IOTA
        https://youtu.be/wB5Jfbp6SUc
        https://youtu.be/RaI3WYHSuWA



        Have recovery trailer and shop if you breakdown in my area.
        Frankford, Ont, Canada
        613-398-6186

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        • #19
          Originally posted by mack View Post
          I did with varsol and brushes.






          Cleaned it then polished it.
          So what would it cost me to have you do that to mine if I ship you the engine?

          Amazing work!
          Nathan
          KD9ARL

          μολὼν λαβέ

          1978 XS1100E
          K&N Filter
          #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
          OEM Exhaust
          ATK Fork Brace
          LED Dash lights
          Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

          Green Monster Coils
          SS Brake Lines
          Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

          In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

          Theodore Roosevelt

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          • #20
            Just a clean and shine

            or would you want me to tear it down and check it out as well. I have a 78 E motor and tranny etc with carbs and air box in line for next winter. I want to finish the LH after xmas. This summer I intend to clock a lot of miles on both the LH and SF. Not going to turn one wrench this summer.
            mack
            79 XS 1100 SF Special
            HERMES
            original owner
            http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps6932d5df.jpg

            81 XS 1100 LH MNS
            SPICA
            http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad305/mack-055/2.jpg

            78 XS 11E
            IOTA
            https://youtu.be/wB5Jfbp6SUc
            https://youtu.be/RaI3WYHSuWA



            Have recovery trailer and shop if you breakdown in my area.
            Frankford, Ont, Canada
            613-398-6186

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            • #21
              that is really nice, mack
              MayanTiger
              81 MNS learning as I go

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              • #22
                Shims stuck in buckets

                I found that if you access to an airline/compressor with a fine point for cleaning dust etc. By blowing compressed air into the notch on the side if the bucket the shim will pop off easily.

                Warning

                Wear a glove and press down on the opposite side of the shim whilst applying air, keep a good hold of the shim and bucket, they pop quick once the air gets underneath.

                No physical contact to remove shim which seems to be held in by oil, hydro locked in place

                Andy

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by mayantiger View Post
                  that is really nice, mack
                  I agree! Wow! Let me put on my sunglasses.
                  Skids (Sid Hansen)

                  Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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                  • #24
                    Cylinder Head

                    Without the proper tools, I advise you to let a machine shop do this work, otherwise you may be pulling it right back off. Speaking of which, why did you pull it off? Valves/seats will likely need more than "lapping".

                    Machine shop can degrease and glass bead the head and reface the valves and seats. The shop will also assemble the head with the valves adjusted for you. You will need to take them the cams/caps with the head.

                    They may want you to supply the parts i.e. seals which you will get in an engine gasket set. This can be purchased on line.

                    MP
                    1981 XS1100H Venturer
                    K&N Air Filter
                    ACCT
                    Custom Paint by Deitz
                    Geezer Rectifier/Regulator
                    Chacal Stainless Steel Braided Brake Lines
                    Chrome Front Rotor & Caliper Covers
                    Stebel Nautilus Horn
                    EBC Front Rotors
                    Limie Accent Moves On In 2015

                    Mike

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                    • #25
                      If you are down this far....

                      Everyone has very good tips on this thread and yes, I agree that anything over a LIGHT valve lap (which can still change your shim size) should be left to an automotive type machine shop (preferably one that can handle MC head work).

                      But if you are already torn down this far then a nice, little-known valve upgrade is a 30 degree valve cut back. A machinist can do all 8 valves in an hour and should charge less than $10.00 per valve.

                      The cut back allows the gasses to start flowing at a higher velocity faster than the stock valve will because of the uneven surface just off of the valve grind that is left over from the forming process. It is a little thing and I would only recommend doing this if you already have the head apart.

                      Not very clear but here is a before and after picture and you can see the cut back on the left valve.

                      Mike Giroir
                      79 XS-1100 Special

                      Once you un-can a can of worms, the only way to re-can them is with a bigger can.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by mack View Post
                        or would you want me to tear it down and check it out as well. I have a 78 E motor and tranny etc with carbs and air box in line for next winter. I want to finish the LH after xmas. This summer I intend to clock a lot of miles on both the LH and SF. Not going to turn one wrench this summer.
                        WOW Mack. That is impressive. You give us all higher levels to strive for.
                        82 XJ

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