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  • #31
    Yes, I mean the stator and field coils. If you're getting .1 ohm between each white wire and ground, you won't be able to get .4 ohm between the white wires; it will read through the 'ground'. Doublecheck your meter to see what scale it's reading if it's a autoranging model.

    Back to the brown wire; if at the plug behind the fusebox going to the coil, you get nothing to ground on the brown or green when unplugged from the harness, the coil is good. With the coil disconnected and the key off (you have been checking with the key off ), now check the brown wire at the regulator plug to ground. If you now get a reading to ground, there's a short in this wire or in one of the systems fed by this wire. To check the individual systems, remove the ignition, headlight, and turn signal fuses one at a time. If the short clears after removing a specific fuse, the problem is in that system and you'll have to trace it out. If removing none of the fuses clears it, then the problem is in the brown wire that goes from the ignition switch to the fusebox. This wire is tapped into twice between the switch and the box; once for the regulator and once for the coil. You'll have to split the harness to check this.

    If removing a fuse clears it, then maybe this will help tracing the system...http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33254

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    • #32
      Brown wire / Green wire no ohms to ground at the first connector (under fusebox)

      Brown wire at top connection (unplugged) 1 ohm. Pulled all fuses and stayed the same...except on the tail light fuse. Pulled that fuse and it jumps to 6 ohms. Haven't a clue what this means. I'm sick of this electrical crap
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      1979 Yamaha XS1100F (since 2015)...Project
      1980 Suzuki GS850G (since 2012)
      1979 Kawasaki KZ400B (since 2013)

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      • #33
        Originally posted by neJeff View Post
        I'm sick of this electrical crap
        I'll give you a hundred dollars for the bike, and take the electrical problems of your hands. CZ

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        • #34
          Originally posted by neJeff View Post
          Not between the white wires, white wires to ground. And its really .1 remember...between themselves I get .4 ohms
          If with the white wires not plugged into the reg your getting anything but the same reading as if your not connected to them at all to ground, something is grounding them out, and there is your problem. Either the wiring is bad, or something in the coils is bad. Based on loose bolts, the coils may be bad. Your quickest fix would probably be to replace the alternator, but that may be expensive. Then again you might be able to find a good deal on one.
          Cy

          1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
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          • #35
            Just bought a supposedly tested stator/field coil assembly. Honestly don't know if its the right thing to do or not but what the hell. Thinking of a nice clean re-wiring of this right to the reg/rect may be in order. PO obviously had issues with this as there is an interminent toggle switch by the handlebars that turns on the light if it doesn't turn on like it's suppose to. Electrical issues suck.
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            1979 Yamaha XS1100F (since 2015)...Project
            1980 Suzuki GS850G (since 2012)
            1979 Kawasaki KZ400B (since 2013)

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            • #36
              Can someone tell me if this bike had one or two horns orginally. The PO had some goofball relay thing hooked up to two horns and and I cut it all out and now I have two sets of pink/brown wires.
              Current Daily Rides / Projects

              1979 Yamaha XS1100F (since 2015)...Project
              1980 Suzuki GS850G (since 2012)
              1979 Kawasaki KZ400B (since 2013)

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              • #37
                Yes, they had two horns....
                Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

                '78E original owner - resto project
                '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
                '82 XJ rebuild project
                '80SG restified, red SOLD
                '79F parts...
                '81H more parts...

                Other current bikes:
                '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
                '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
                '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
                Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
                Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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                • #38
                  Steve, As you read I broke down and ordered up some parts. I really goofed up things when I took that damn cover off, never been the same since. These connectors on this bike have been on and off so much I suspect they are too loose too. Back in the old days I had an old chevy pickup that had a one-wire alternator on it. Basically it had issues and the PO mounted one of these and then ran wire right to positive side of battery and that was it, they make any thing like that for a motorcycle? Had that truck 3 years and never had any problems...thanks again for all the help.
                  Current Daily Rides / Projects

                  1979 Yamaha XS1100F (since 2015)...Project
                  1980 Suzuki GS850G (since 2012)
                  1979 Kawasaki KZ400B (since 2013)

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                  • #39
                    Mike McC

                    Hate to jump in late like this but I had the same symptoms- no headlight, no tach, and no charging. Read a tech tip on this site that talked about cleaning the white/green/brown connectors of all their corrosian. Used CRC QD contact cleaner on all connectors, plugged and unplugged them multiple times, and life is beautiful. All works like new. Hope this helps.

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                    • #40
                      Done that several times but it's a good suggestion. Never had a problem with the tach working and it still works fine.. Who knows....
                      Current Daily Rides / Projects

                      1979 Yamaha XS1100F (since 2015)...Project
                      1980 Suzuki GS850G (since 2012)
                      1979 Kawasaki KZ400B (since 2013)

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                      • #41
                        I think it's a good move replacing the whole complete right side cover. I wouldn't disturb the three center allen bolts they are best left alone, JMHO. Good luck!
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                        • #42
                          Jeff, I had trouble with the female side on the connectors. As you said, if they've been plugged/unplugged multiple times, they'll get loose. Pull the female side out of the plastic socket (you'll need a small, thin screwdriver to disengage the locking tang), then gently squeeze the rolled part closed a bit.

                          Yes, the wiring on these can be a PITA....
                          Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

                          '78E original owner - resto project
                          '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
                          '82 XJ rebuild project
                          '80SG restified, red SOLD
                          '79F parts...
                          '81H more parts...

                          Other current bikes:
                          '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
                          '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
                          '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
                          Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
                          Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by bikerphil View Post
                            I think it's a good move replacing the whole complete right side cover. I wouldn't disturb the three center allen bolts they are best left alone, JMHO. Good luck!
                            Well I am a believer but why? Seems like I read something about that before on another site. The stator/coil set I have coming is not on the side cover, its loose, we shall see...Not through goofing around with this one yet, going to pull it all out first chance I get and look through it again.
                            Current Daily Rides / Projects

                            1979 Yamaha XS1100F (since 2015)...Project
                            1980 Suzuki GS850G (since 2012)
                            1979 Kawasaki KZ400B (since 2013)

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by crazy steve View Post
                              Jeff, I had trouble with the female side on the connectors. As you said, if they've been plugged/unplugged multiple times, they'll get loose. Pull the female side out of the plastic socket (you'll need a small, thin screwdriver to disengage the locking tang), then gently squeeze the rolled part closed a bit.

                              Yes, the wiring on these can be a PITA....
                              Going to do this first chance I get!
                              Current Daily Rides / Projects

                              1979 Yamaha XS1100F (since 2015)...Project
                              1980 Suzuki GS850G (since 2012)
                              1979 Kawasaki KZ400B (since 2013)

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by neJeff View Post
                                Back in the old days I had an old chevy pickup that had a one-wire alternator on it. Basically it had issues and the PO mounted one of these and then ran wire right to positive side of battery and that was it, they make any thing like that for a motorcycle? Had that truck 3 years and never had any problems...thanks again for all the help.
                                Hey Jeff,

                                You're in good hands with these guys, but if you'll search for Alternative Alternator Option...oh never mind, here's the actual link to it:
                                http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread...ive+alternator


                                you'll find a long thread about putting on a Mini-Automotive 1 wire alternator....not a simple bolt on procedure, but is another option....albeit a bit drastic!

                                T.C.
                                T. C. Gresham
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