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  • #31
    Originally posted by QTreiber View Post
    I thought I read somewhere (one of the manuals?) that the nuts should not be fully tightened at first, then the wheel/axle etc. should be mounted and then they should be fully tightened to allow everything to be aligned.

    Did I dream this...?

    Armin
    The final drive unit to shaft nuts are not usually loosened to remove the rear wheel. They should be tightened to the manuals listed torque before the wheel is installed.
    Rob
    KEEP THE RUBBER SIDE DOWN

    1978 XS1100E Modified
    1978 XS500E
    1979 XS1100F Restored
    1980 XS1100 SG
    1981 Suzuki GS1100
    1983 Suzuki GS750S Katana
    1983 Honda CB900 Custom

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    • #32
      Originally posted by QTreiber View Post
      I took off the rear wheel of my 1979 Standard XS1100, checked and greased the splines and now I am not quite sure if I assembled everything in the right order

      I should have taken pictures, thought that I should be able to see how things are assembled in the manual, but I want to make sure that I did it right.


      This is how it looks now:
      http://

      Is this OK?

      I also have a hard time getting the axle in; there are about 2 inches more to go. Should I lift the wheel and "wiggle" things in place, use a hammer...?


      I was also wondering, what the best way is to torque the 4 nuts correctly that hold the final gear case. With the wheel in place there is very little room for at least two of the nuts.

      Thanks in advance for your help!
      Armin
      The order there in the photo is correct. Make sure the splines on the other side are fully engaged and that the rear drive unit is tightened in place before mounting the wheel. You should be able to push the axle through by hand from one side to the other so long as everything is lined up. A little wiggling may be required but you really should not have to hammer it into place. Make sure the torque plate is not bent and as pointed out that it is in the proper position on the swing arm pin at its front end.
      Rob
      KEEP THE RUBBER SIDE DOWN

      1978 XS1100E Modified
      1978 XS500E
      1979 XS1100F Restored
      1980 XS1100 SG
      1981 Suzuki GS1100
      1983 Suzuki GS750S Katana
      1983 Honda CB900 Custom

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      • #33
        Originally posted by QTreiber View Post
        Both parts are .479" thick (assuming my Harbor Freight caliper is accurate) not including the lip. Is this beyond a reasonable tolerance?
        No, it isn't; that should fit without having to force anything into place. You don't have anything 'extra' between the wheel and the caliper bracket (besides the dust shield/spacer) do you?

        Maybe a good cleaning of the wheel spline mating surfaces is in order; if the wheel isn't seating all the way, this could be the problem.
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        • #34
          Well, on second thought, if the splines had an obstruction, it wouldn't be the cause of a gap there.
          Skids (Sid Hansen)

          Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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          • #35
            Thats true but if not engaged squarely it would cause misalignment and everything or something in that photo looks "off"
            Rob
            KEEP THE RUBBER SIDE DOWN

            1978 XS1100E Modified
            1978 XS500E
            1979 XS1100F Restored
            1980 XS1100 SG
            1981 Suzuki GS1100
            1983 Suzuki GS750S Katana
            1983 Honda CB900 Custom

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            • #36
              Is that photo after the axle was tightened into place? If not, that gap will likely be closed by tightening the axle into position and that would be OK so ling as that gap is even all round but in the photo it looks uneven unless its just the angle of the photo.
              Rob
              KEEP THE RUBBER SIDE DOWN

              1978 XS1100E Modified
              1978 XS500E
              1979 XS1100F Restored
              1980 XS1100 SG
              1981 Suzuki GS1100
              1983 Suzuki GS750S Katana
              1983 Honda CB900 Custom

              Comment


              • #37
                Originally posted by 79XS11F View Post
                Is that photo after the axle was tightened into place? If not, that gap will likely be closed by tightening the axle into position and that would be OK so ling as that gap is even all round but in the photo it looks uneven unless its just the angle of the photo.
                Rob
                I took this picture before the axle was tightened.

                I will work on the bike again this weekend and hopefully things be be aligned when I am finally done.

                Thanks again for your input!

                Armin
                2018 Suzuki DR650, no XS1100 right now.

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                • #38
                  This all may be just an alignment problem.

                  You may have a slightly bent steel caliper bracket, along with a tweaked swingarm. With the aluminum caliper bracket/steel caliper bracket assembled and the pivot nut tightened, the steel caliper bracket should pivot into place over the spacer and fit flush/parallel to the spacer. With the wheel installed and fully seated, this assembly should then slip over the rotor and down into place without forcing, leaving a small gap between the steel bracket and the swingarm (between .010" and .050"). Assuming eveything else is right, yours appears to be bent.

                  If everything is aligned right, the axle should just push in or at most just need light taps.
                  Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

                  '78E original owner - resto project
                  '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
                  '82 XJ rebuild project
                  '80SG restified, red SOLD
                  '79F parts...
                  '81H more parts...

                  Other current bikes:
                  '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
                  '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
                  '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
                  Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
                  Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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