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  • Rear wheel installation

    I took off the rear wheel of my 1979 Standard XS1100, checked and greased the splines and now I am not quite sure if I assembled everything in the right order

    I should have taken pictures, thought that I should be able to see how things are assembled in the manual, but I want to make sure that I did it right.


    This is how it looks now:
    http://

    Is this OK?

    I also have a hard time getting the axle in; there are about 2 inches more to go. Should I lift the wheel and "wiggle" things in place, use a hammer...?


    I was also wondering, what the best way is to torque the 4 nuts correctly that hold the final gear case. With the wheel in place there is very little room for at least two of the nuts.

    Thanks in advance for your help!
    Armin
    2018 Suzuki DR650, no XS1100 right now.

  • #2
    You know, I'm not sure, but I "thought" that spacer went on the other side of the rear caliper bracket. Does the caliper line up with the disk without any trouble? I'll look at mine tonight when I get home (when I go out to head home it will be dark), I'll turn on the big lights in the garage so I can see.

    As for getting the axle in, it does take a little light tapping with a hammer to get it all the way in. Make sure to jiggle things a little bit too, as you don't want to be forcing it, but it is a tight fit.
    Cy

    1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
    Duplicolor Mirage Paint Job (Purple/Green)
    Vetter Windjammer IV
    Vetter hard bags & Trunk
    OEM Luggage Rack
    Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
    Spade Fuse Box
    Turn Signal Auto Cancel Mod
    750 FD Mod
    TC Spin on Oil Filter Adapter (temp removed)
    XJ1100 Front Footpegs
    XJ1100 Shocks

    I was always taught to respect my elders, but it keeps getting harder to find one.

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    • #3
      The parts are in the right order for a standard 17" rear wheel, but that spacer isn't an OEM piece. The stock unit is .47" thick (about 15/32) not including a 'locating lip' that fits into the caliper bracket. Too thick and it throws off the alignment of the steel caliper bracket and the caliper mount as well as causing issues with installing the axle. I'm sure this one works, but the right one would work better...
      Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

      '78E original owner - resto project
      '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
      '82 XJ rebuild project
      '80SG restified, red SOLD
      '79F parts...
      '81H more parts...

      Other current bikes:
      '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
      '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
      '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
      Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
      Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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      • #4
        That one looks pretty much identical to the one that is on my 78. Same order too.
        Nathan
        KD9ARL

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        1978 XS1100E
        K&N Filter
        #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
        OEM Exhaust
        ATK Fork Brace
        LED Dash lights
        Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

        Green Monster Coils
        SS Brake Lines
        Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

        In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

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        • #5
          If you are having difficulty installing the axle, make sure the caliper torque bracket is seated correctly in it's rubber grommet bushing forward on the swing arm.
          2H7 (79) owned since '89
          3H3 owned since '06

          "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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          • #6
            Originally posted by bikerphil View Post
            If you are having difficulty installing the axle, make sure the caliper torque bracket is seated correctly in it's rubber grommet bushing forward on the swing arm.
            I noticed when I was modding my swingarm for the big tire that even a small amount of misalignment of the swingarm would make the axle hard to install. If you have the right spacer, there should be about a .100" gap between the caliper bracket and the swingarm. If the swingarm is sprung apart (in this case, with a too-wide spacer), you'll have to beat the axle in. Get it aligned right, and you can push it in by hand.
            Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

            '78E original owner - resto project
            '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
            '82 XJ rebuild project
            '80SG restified, red SOLD
            '79F parts...
            '81H more parts...

            Other current bikes:
            '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
            '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
            '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
            Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
            Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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            • #7
              Here is a picture of my stock '79 XS11. The spacer and the order look right to me (I wish mine was that clean...). Now, I have not owned this bike since it was new and I suppose the spacer could have been replaced at some point. If so, it looks like his PO had the same idea for a replacement spacer.

              And yes, it can be a pain to get the axle back through. Wiggle and tap with a dead blow hammer. It'll go.

              Patrick

              The glorious rays of the rising sun exist only to create shadows in which doom may hide.

              XS11F (Incubus, daily rider)
              1969 Yamaha DT1B
              Five other bikes whose names do not begin with "Y"

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              • #8
                Here's a link to the right spacer (although Yammy calls it a 'collar')....
                http://www.benefiscal.co.uk/partinfo...90387-20637-00
                Note the lip; this fits into a matching groove in the cast aluminum caliper bracket to hold it in place while installing the assembly.
                Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

                '78E original owner - resto project
                '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
                '82 XJ rebuild project
                '80SG restified, red SOLD
                '79F parts...
                '81H more parts...

                Other current bikes:
                '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
                '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
                '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
                Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
                Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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                • #9
                  Here's a better pic of the right spacer for a Standard....

                  [IMG][/IMG]
                  Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

                  '78E original owner - resto project
                  '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
                  '82 XJ rebuild project
                  '80SG restified, red SOLD
                  '79F parts...
                  '81H more parts...

                  Other current bikes:
                  '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
                  '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
                  '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
                  Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
                  Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Originally posted by crazy steve View Post
                    Here's a better pic of the right spacer for a Standard....

                    [IMG][/IMG]
                    You know, I looked at mine, and it matches what all the other pictures show. So I wonder, were there more than one setup, as I don't notice anything in the bracket for the spacer to fit into during assembly. So, maybe the 78's were different in fact, but not on paper?

                    I didn't recognize the OP's parts cause I've never seen mine that clean and shiny.
                    Cy

                    1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
                    Duplicolor Mirage Paint Job (Purple/Green)
                    Vetter Windjammer IV
                    Vetter hard bags & Trunk
                    OEM Luggage Rack
                    Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
                    Spade Fuse Box
                    Turn Signal Auto Cancel Mod
                    750 FD Mod
                    TC Spin on Oil Filter Adapter (temp removed)
                    XJ1100 Front Footpegs
                    XJ1100 Shocks

                    I was always taught to respect my elders, but it keeps getting harder to find one.

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                    • #11
                      For what it is worth

                      My 79F has the same spacer Steve shows in his picture.
                      I'm sure this is the spacer it came with since I know the original owner did not modify the bike in any way.
                      XS1100F TKAT fork brace Stock suspension. Vetter Fairing. Pingel Petcocks. Geezer voltage regulator
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                      XS1100SG Project bike
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                      • #12
                        Yeah, it's odd that so many have what appears to be the same 'wrong' spacer. But for what it's worth, all four of mine have the same caliper bracket with the 'receiver groove' (including the SG) and all three standards (78, 79, and 81) came with the 'correct' spacer. And this spacer is listed on the parts fiche as fitting all years standards.

                        The other thing is you can see the misalignment in Qt's posted pic; that steel caliper bracket is angled against the spacer and only tightening the axle will pull it 'straight'. You won't have that with the right spacer...
                        Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

                        '78E original owner - resto project
                        '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
                        '82 XJ rebuild project
                        '80SG restified, red SOLD
                        '79F parts...
                        '81H more parts...

                        Other current bikes:
                        '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
                        '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
                        '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
                        Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
                        Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Originally posted by crazy steve View Post
                          Here's a better pic of the right spacer for a Standard....

                          [IMG][/IMG]
                          I will give it to ya, went and looked at the spacer on my 78 today and it does look like this one and not the first one.
                          Nathan
                          KD9ARL

                          μολὼν λαβέ

                          1978 XS1100E
                          K&N Filter
                          #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                          OEM Exhaust
                          ATK Fork Brace
                          LED Dash lights
                          Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

                          Green Monster Coils
                          SS Brake Lines
                          Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

                          In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

                          Theodore Roosevelt

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                          • #14
                            Maybe your torque plate is jacked on something. It should not need to be forced. Personally, I would take it easy with beating the axle too hard with a hammer.
                            Skids (Sid Hansen)

                            Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by skids View Post
                              Maybe your torque plate is jacked on something. It should not need to be forced. Personally, I would take it easy with beating the axle too hard with a hammer.
                              Yeah, it shouldn't take more than a couple very light taps to get it all the way in.
                              Cy

                              1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
                              Duplicolor Mirage Paint Job (Purple/Green)
                              Vetter Windjammer IV
                              Vetter hard bags & Trunk
                              OEM Luggage Rack
                              Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
                              Spade Fuse Box
                              Turn Signal Auto Cancel Mod
                              750 FD Mod
                              TC Spin on Oil Filter Adapter (temp removed)
                              XJ1100 Front Footpegs
                              XJ1100 Shocks

                              I was always taught to respect my elders, but it keeps getting harder to find one.

                              Comment

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