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  • rgoot01
    XSive
    • Apr 2010
    • 74
    • Salida,CO

    #1

    MikesXS coil numbers?

    I have read in various threads about using the coils for an XS650 on the XS1100's. My question is, which part number/coils do I want for my '80 Standard? I have read about using the black ones, however I have read about using the green ones as opposed to the black.

    Any help, suggestions,advice would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks!
  • natemoen
    Master of XSology
    • May 2010
    • 8640
    • Fargo

    #2
    these are the good ones Part #17-6810. The dual tower black ones work too but there have been quite a few peole that have had them fail withing a year.
    Nathan
    KD9ARL

    μολὼν λαβέ

    1978 XS1100E
    K&N Filter
    #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
    OEM Exhaust
    ATK Fork Brace
    LED Dash lights
    Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

    Green Monster Coils
    SS Brake Lines
    Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

    In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

    Theodore Roosevelt

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    • rgoot01
      XSive
      • Apr 2010
      • 74
      • Salida,CO

      #3
      Thanks for the part number. Do you know if I can bypass the ballast resistor with these?

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      • natemoen
        Master of XSology
        • May 2010
        • 8640
        • Fargo

        #4
        Originally posted by rgoot01
        Thanks for the part number. Do you know if I can bypass the ballast resistor with these?
        Yes. These are 3 ohm coils so you MUST remove the ballast resistor if you switch to these coils.
        Nathan
        KD9ARL

        μολὼν λαβέ

        1978 XS1100E
        K&N Filter
        #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
        OEM Exhaust
        ATK Fork Brace
        LED Dash lights
        Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

        Green Monster Coils
        SS Brake Lines
        Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

        In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

        Theodore Roosevelt

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        • natemoen
          Master of XSology
          • May 2010
          • 8640
          • Fargo

          #5
          I installed these coils a couple months ago and have not had any problems with them so far. and they give you a much hotter spark as well
          Nathan
          KD9ARL

          μολὼν λαβέ

          1978 XS1100E
          K&N Filter
          #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
          OEM Exhaust
          ATK Fork Brace
          LED Dash lights
          Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

          Green Monster Coils
          SS Brake Lines
          Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

          In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

          Theodore Roosevelt

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          • Haarstad
            XSive
            • Sep 2010
            • 95
            • Dexter, MN

            #6
            what's a ballast resistor? and will i need to do it on my 1979 XS1100 special if i use the green coils on mikesxs.com?
            I'm just a confused newbie for most things lol
            Eric Haarstad
            Minnesota

            1979 XS1100 Special

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            • natemoen
              Master of XSology
              • May 2010
              • 8640
              • Fargo

              #7
              Originally posted by Haarstad
              what's a ballast resistor? and will i need to do it on my 1979 XS1100 special if i use the green coils on mikesxs.com?
              I'm just a confused newbie for most things lol
              On the bottom side of the top left frame rail right by the coils there is a small silver rectangle with 2 red works coming out on it. That is the ballast resistor. It creates am extra 1.5 ohms resistance to give the coils a total of 3 ohms. (stock coils are 1.5 already) so yes you would have to remove your as well if you step up to mikes green coils.
              Nathan
              KD9ARL

              μολὼν λαβέ

              1978 XS1100E
              K&N Filter
              #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
              OEM Exhaust
              ATK Fork Brace
              LED Dash lights
              Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

              Green Monster Coils
              SS Brake Lines
              Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

              In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

              Theodore Roosevelt

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              • Haarstad
                XSive
                • Sep 2010
                • 95
                • Dexter, MN

                #8
                thank you and do the spark plug caps need to be 5k ohms total? if so, why do they sell a 1k ohm cap?
                Eric Haarstad
                Minnesota

                1979 XS1100 Special

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                • natemoen
                  Master of XSology
                  • May 2010
                  • 8640
                  • Fargo

                  #9
                  The resistor caps are just to eliminate radio interference. Really you can run non resistor caps and non resistor plugs. But stock is 5k caps and non resistor plugs. I would not go over 5k per wire though.
                  Nathan
                  KD9ARL

                  μολὼν λαβέ

                  1978 XS1100E
                  K&N Filter
                  #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                  OEM Exhaust
                  ATK Fork Brace
                  LED Dash lights
                  Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

                  Green Monster Coils
                  SS Brake Lines
                  Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

                  In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

                  Theodore Roosevelt

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                  • Haarstad
                    XSive
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 95
                    • Dexter, MN

                    #10
                    maybe i'll just go with 1k caps then, i have no radio
                    Eric Haarstad
                    Minnesota

                    1979 XS1100 Special

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                    • Haarstad
                      XSive
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 95
                      • Dexter, MN

                      #11
                      Nevermind, with the coils that i'm getting, it says that 5k ohm caps are required
                      Eric Haarstad
                      Minnesota

                      1979 XS1100 Special

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                      • BigRed
                        XStremely XSive
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 265
                        • Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

                        #12
                        Haarstad:

                        You could also run non-resistor caps with resistor spark plugs. From what I've read, it turns out that you don't need to worry about how much resistance you've got on your spark plugs and caps unless you're running radios, but 5kohm is standard.

                        Also, when you disconnect the ballast resistor, take the two wires that used to plug into it, and plug them into each other, or you won't get spark.

                        Good luck!
                        '80 SG with motor from a '82 XJ

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                        • natemoen
                          Master of XSology
                          • May 2010
                          • 8640
                          • Fargo

                          #13
                          Good point about plugging the wires together, guess I should have specified that.
                          Nathan
                          KD9ARL

                          μολὼν λαβέ

                          1978 XS1100E
                          K&N Filter
                          #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                          OEM Exhaust
                          ATK Fork Brace
                          LED Dash lights
                          Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

                          Green Monster Coils
                          SS Brake Lines
                          Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

                          In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

                          Theodore Roosevelt

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                          • rgoot01
                            XSive
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 74
                            • Salida,CO

                            #14
                            Right on! Thanks for the information. It looks as though I will be purchasing new coils today.

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                            • BigRed
                              XStremely XSive
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 265
                              • Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

                              #15
                              Originally posted by natemoen
                              these are the good ones Part #17-6810. The dual tower black ones work too but there have been quite a few peole that have had them fail withing a year.
                              I put in the dual tower black coils from Mike's XS, and one of them's giving me problems in the first 3000 km. It could be my installation job, but seems to be the coil, as it's only a problem once it gets hot.
                              '80 SG with motor from a '82 XJ

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