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  • randy
    XS-XJ Guru
    • Dec 2003
    • 4521

    #1

    Fill Plug Fix

    I know a few of you have found alternative filler plugs to fix the dreaded rounded-out allen, but I thought I'd post my solution. I found a Moose Racing # M0102. Originally for Suzi DR250 '90-'92 and DR350 '93-'94. Comes with a 14mm x 1.25 thread so I ran it through my 14mm x 1.5 die and viola! No more allen. Even comes with a new copper crush washer and a magnetic tip. They go for between 12 and 14 bucks each.

  • fredintoon
    Master of XSology
    • Mar 2004
    • 6795
    • Saskatoon SK

    #2
    Originally posted by randy
    I know a few of you have found alternative filler plugs to fix the dreaded rounded-out allen, but I thought I'd post my solution. I found a Moose Racing # M0102. Originally for Suzi DR250 '90-'92 and DR350 '93-'94. Comes with a 14mm x 1.25 thread so I ran it through my 14mm x 1.5 die and viola! No more allen. Even comes with a new copper crush washer and a magnetic tip. They go for between 12 and 14 bucks each.

    Hi Randy,
    the hard part is getting the old ones out, eh?
    There are other ways but I carefully filed 2 flats on mine and broke them loose with an open-end wrench.
    I fixed mine by brazing a hex. nut on top but that fancy magnet tipped replacement is way hi tech in comparison.
    Theoretically, the thread conversion should not have worked well. How good did it look in practice?
    Fred Hill, S'toon
    XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
    "The Flying Pumpkin"

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    • randy
      XS-XJ Guru
      • Dec 2003
      • 4521

      #3
      The finished product is in the photo, came out fine

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      • D. P. Larmee
        XStremely XSive
        • May 2003
        • 224
        • Evanston, IL

        #4
        The oil drain plugs for the XS11 are 14 x 1.5 and can be picked up at Partsnmore for $7.00.
        1980 XS 1100 Standard
        1980 XS 1100 Special
        1982 XJ 1100
        1972 Honda CB 350

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        • Pat Kelly
          XS-XJ Super Guru
          • Jul 2002
          • 3046
          • Golden Valley, AZ

          #5
          That being the fill plug, it will not be in the gear oil so the magnet part is moot. Can't hurt though. Way easier to remove as you pointed out. looks good too.
          Pat Kelly
          <p-lkelly@sbcglobal.net>

          1978 XS1100E (The Force)
          1980 XS1100LG (The Dark Side)
          2007 Dodge Ram 2500 quad-cab long-bed (Wifes ride)
          1999 Suburban (The Ship)
          1994 Dodge Spirit (Son #1)
          1968 F100 (Valentine)

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          • fredintoon
            Master of XSology
            • Mar 2004
            • 6795
            • Saskatoon SK

            #6
            Originally posted by randy
            The finished product is in the photo, came out fine
            Hi Randy,
            what f**king photo?
            this:- http://home.ptd.net\~theragos\PLUG.JPG
            showed up on my reply but is not on my screen with the original post.
            Must be the electronic equivalent to a plugged pipe somewhere in the system.
            It's that I have had less than stellar results trying to convert one thread to another.
            Fred Hill, S'toon
            XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
            "The Flying Pumpkin"

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            • fredintoon
              Master of XSology
              • Mar 2004
              • 6795
              • Saskatoon SK

              #7
              Originally posted by fredintoon
              this:- http://home.ptd.net\~theragos\PLUG.JPG
              showed up on my reply but is not on my screen with the original post.
              Well, eff me if it didn't show up on that last reply but the bastard still don't work. WTF?
              Fred Hill, S'toon
              XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
              "The Flying Pumpkin"

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              • randy
                XS-XJ Guru
                • Dec 2003
                • 4521

                #8
                Funny you should have that problem, Fred. Well, it's not ha-ha funny, but I have the same problem when I use Firefox. As I was posting this very thread, I couldn't see my photo, then when I switched to IE, it came up. I echo your sentiment---WTF??

                Oh, and D P Larmee, yeah, we know they're available, but they all have the dreaded allen!

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                • D. P. Larmee
                  XStremely XSive
                  • May 2003
                  • 224
                  • Evanston, IL

                  #9
                  The fill plug is an allen; the drain plug is a hex head with the same threads. It's the same plug that you remove to drain the engine oil, and both middle and final drives.
                  1980 XS 1100 Standard
                  1980 XS 1100 Special
                  1982 XJ 1100
                  1972 Honda CB 350

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                  • D. P. Larmee
                    XStremely XSive
                    • May 2003
                    • 224
                    • Evanston, IL

                    #10
                    I knew I had an extra one around here somewhere. Here she is:

                    1980 XS 1100 Standard
                    1980 XS 1100 Special
                    1982 XJ 1100
                    1972 Honda CB 350

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                    • randy
                      XS-XJ Guru
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 4521

                      #11
                      OOPS, maybe I should read slower...thought we were all talking about the fill plug...

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                      • dpotter58
                        XS-XJ Guru
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 1831
                        • Southern Maryland

                        #12
                        Hey Randy, why did i think this was a thread bustin my chops??

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                        • cywelchjr
                          XS-XJ Super Guru(Deceased)
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 4450
                          • Sacramento, CA

                          #13
                          Originally posted by randy
                          OOPS, maybe I should read slower...thought we were all talking about the fill plug...
                          I think he is saying that you can use the drain plug as a fill plug because it has the same threads as the fill plug but is a hex head. I'm going to check that out when I get home (gonna grab the drain plug from my old engine and check it for fit.
                          Cy

                          1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
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                          Vetter Windjammer IV
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                          • CatatonicBug
                            Master of XSology
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 6117
                            • Clinton, UT

                            #14
                            Originally posted by D. P. Larmee
                            The oil drain plugs for the XS11 are 14 x 1.5 and can be picked up at Partsnmore for $7.00.
                            Napa sells one for $4.99 too.
                            1980 XS850SG - Sold
                            1981 XS1100LH Midnight Special (Sold) - purchased 9/29/08
                            Fully Vetterized and Dynojet Kit added, Heated Grips, Truck-Lite LED headlight, Accel Coils, Irridium plugs, TKAT Fork Brace, XS850LH Final Drive & Black SS Brake lines from Chacal.
                            Here's my web page devoted to my bike! XS/XJ User's Manuals there, and the XJ1100 Service Manual and both XS1100 Service manuals (free download!).

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                            -H. Ford

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                            • randy
                              XS-XJ Guru
                              • Dec 2003
                              • 4521

                              #15
                              Dwayne, you feelin' guilty?

                              I don't think the drain plug has enough clearance to use as a fill plug on the final drive? Hey, I've been wrong before...

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