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  • Rear Wheel Centerline Knowledge

    I have heard conflicting info about the rear wheel centerline in relation to the left inner and right inner frame/swingarm points. Before I started all the modding to a stock 79F Bike, I got a 5.625" from the left side to rear wheel center. I do recall this was with the 16" wheel swap. I never mic'd the 17" wheel for reference, but wouldn't think there was much difference there.


    This could have been off by a few mm's but the nice thing about the XS11 is the adjustable swingarm pivot bolts that I incorporated into the swingarm swap.
    I just want some GURUs to chime in with real world knowledge here before I mod up a different swingarm. Thanks....Rob
    MDRNF
    79F.....Not Stock
    80G......Not Stock Either....In the works

  • #2
    You're never happy unless your screwing up something that was stock, are ya, Cuz!? lol.

    I thought you were doing a Vmax chain drive? How many irons in the fire does a guy need? I did go by and look at an '06 Vmax today. They asked me if I wanted to test ride it.. thought about it.. and knew I'd go try to see how fast it'd go and decided I better not. lol.

    Just had the swingarm out yesterday. I wish you would have hit me up a day earlier.


    Tod
    Try your hardest to be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.

    You can live to be 100, as long as you give up everything that would make you want to live to be 100!

    Current bikes:
    '06 Suzuki DR650
    *'82 XJ1100 with the 1179 kit. "Mad Maxim"
    '82 XJ1100 Completely stock fixer-upper
    '82 XJ1100 Bagger fixer-upper
    '82 XJ1100 Motor/frame and lots of boxes of parts
    '82 XJ1100 Parts bike
    '81 XS1100 Special
    '81 YZ250
    '80 XS850 Special
    '80 XR100
    *Crashed/Totalled, still own

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    • #3
      max drive

      I am working on that too.
      According to old member PGGG, the XS rear wheel centerline is exactly in between the inner pivots (exactly 1/2 the swingarm pivot tube)
      I am modding another swingarm for some other member here and wanted to get a consensus on this measurement. The original 79F swingarm I measured was 11.75" across (5.875 centerline)....But when I mic'd everything out, the 16" rear wheel center in relation to the left swingarm pivot side was 5.625 (1/8" from being centered between the frame pivots.
      Even if the 16" rear wheel swap threw me off, 1/8" can be adjusted back at the pivot bolts.
      MDRNF
      79F.....Not Stock
      80G......Not Stock Either....In the works

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      • #4
        Screw the chain, go with a belt drive.
        http://www.myspace.com/i_give_you_power

        1980 XS11 Special - chopped, dropped and OCTY is still installed - NOW IT'S FOR SALE! $1,800 OBO


        Famous Myspace quote:

        "Don't mess with TEXAS! It's not nice to pick on retards."

        It's funny because I am from TEXAS!

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        • #5
          Screw the chain AND the belt.. stay with shaft drive! lol.


          Tod
          Try your hardest to be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.

          You can live to be 100, as long as you give up everything that would make you want to live to be 100!

          Current bikes:
          '06 Suzuki DR650
          *'82 XJ1100 with the 1179 kit. "Mad Maxim"
          '82 XJ1100 Completely stock fixer-upper
          '82 XJ1100 Bagger fixer-upper
          '82 XJ1100 Motor/frame and lots of boxes of parts
          '82 XJ1100 Parts bike
          '81 XS1100 Special
          '81 YZ250
          '80 XS850 Special
          '80 XR100
          *Crashed/Totalled, still own

          Comment


          • #6
            Come on, you loose power with the shaft and the chain is just messy, belt drive with a tensioner is a must.
            http://www.myspace.com/i_give_you_power

            1980 XS11 Special - chopped, dropped and OCTY is still installed - NOW IT'S FOR SALE! $1,800 OBO


            Famous Myspace quote:

            "Don't mess with TEXAS! It's not nice to pick on retards."

            It's funny because I am from TEXAS!

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            • #7
              Tod, you must be really bumming about that u-joint. Already out looking at new bikes?
              Harry

              The voices in my head are giving me the silent treatment.

              '79 Standard
              '82 XJ1100
              '84 FJ1100


              Acta Non Verba

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              • #8
                I am redesigning the ZRX11 swingarm pivot bolts to incorporate the ZRX bearing seal and be 2 piece. I have a new 24" slide Micrometer that doesn't tell lies. I will eventually build a Belt driven Vmax.....hehe
                MDRNF
                79F.....Not Stock
                80G......Not Stock Either....In the works

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                • #9
                  Slide Mic???

                  Are you talking about a digital caliper?
                  '81 1100 MNS - "Midnight XSpress"
                  Original except:
                  120 mains outer cylinders - 125 mains inner cylinders - Ceramic headers - Powder coated pipes, covers calipers, and MC's
                  4 pods - Air box gutted--E3 Plugs - High Back seat - Grooved out swing arm - SS brake lines
                  Fork brace - 160 speedo - Auto CCT
                  All gold paint and chrome replaced with GOLD plate

                  "STUPID is Forever" Ron White.
                  Contact me by PM -I don't deal with stupid anymore.

                  Big John

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by xschop View Post
                    ....I will eventually build a Belt driven Vmax.....hehe
                    What are you planning on using for a belt? I know on the Harleys if you get much above 100 rwhp belt breakage can be a problem, particularly if you go drag racing. These guys almost all convert to chain....

                    '78E original owner
                    Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

                    '78E original owner - resto project
                    '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
                    '82 XJ rebuild project
                    '80SG restified, red SOLD
                    '79F parts...
                    '81H more parts...

                    Other current bikes:
                    '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
                    '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
                    '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
                    Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
                    Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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                    • #11
                      Belt

                      """"""What are you planning on using for a belt?"""""
                      5th post up.....But I will be offering a chaindrive setup for the Max. The case has to be split one time because the outer right bevel gear has to be removed and it doesn't just slide out of the casing.

                      Now any real guru knowlege of the original question?
                      Last edited by xschop; 11-10-2009, 07:15 AM.
                      MDRNF
                      79F.....Not Stock
                      80G......Not Stock Either....In the works

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                      • #12
                        Now any real guru knowlege of the original question?
                        What original question? I thought we were all just BSing?



                        I can take some measurements off of a parts bike I have. It is an XJ with the 16" rim, (Same swingarm) but not sure how you want to get an exact measurement of the wheel. I can tie off some string to the back side of the tire and move it in until it touches the front side.. then mark that on the swing arm.. then do it again for the other side of the tire. Then I can mark halfway on the swingarm between those two marks an d measure to the outside of the swingarm pivots.

                        This will tell you where the TIRE lines up, but not sure how to get an exact wheel measurement. All my rims have tires on them. Also, the XJ rims are different designed and don't know if there's a difference between them and the XS rims, but I do know that everything interchanges between the two. I also know that there are different thicknesses of spacers between some of the XS models on the axle on the right (Brake) side between the swingarm and rim, but may only be because of a difference in the brake bracket that holds the caliper.

                        Let me know if there's something I can do for you.


                        Tod
                        Try your hardest to be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.

                        You can live to be 100, as long as you give up everything that would make you want to live to be 100!

                        Current bikes:
                        '06 Suzuki DR650
                        *'82 XJ1100 with the 1179 kit. "Mad Maxim"
                        '82 XJ1100 Completely stock fixer-upper
                        '82 XJ1100 Bagger fixer-upper
                        '82 XJ1100 Motor/frame and lots of boxes of parts
                        '82 XJ1100 Parts bike
                        '81 XS1100 Special
                        '81 YZ250
                        '80 XS850 Special
                        '80 XR100
                        *Crashed/Totalled, still own

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by crazy steve View Post
                          What are you planning on using for a belt? I know on the Harleys if you get much above 100 rwhp belt breakage can be a problem, particularly if you go drag racing. These guys almost all convert to chain....

                          '78E original owner
                          The bike in my picture has over 100 rwhp.
                          http://www.myspace.com/i_give_you_power

                          1980 XS11 Special - chopped, dropped and OCTY is still installed - NOW IT'S FOR SALE! $1,800 OBO


                          Famous Myspace quote:

                          "Don't mess with TEXAS! It's not nice to pick on retards."

                          It's funny because I am from TEXAS!

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                          • #14
                            Hey Tod, it is best to measure with swingarm and bare wheel installed, but if it can be lined against the part of the installed tire that has no lettering then it will be close enough. I appreciate it. When I am done, I will post up the diagrams for anyone wanting to install the swingarm themselves. 1 of the stock XS11 swingarm pivot bolts has to be trimmed down as well on the left side, I will also post the detail when I'm finished.....CHOP
                            MDRNF
                            79F.....Not Stock
                            80G......Not Stock Either....In the works

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                            • #15
                              You never have really said what this is for? Are you trying to make something that can use the shaft and a bigger back tire?


                              Tod
                              Try your hardest to be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.

                              You can live to be 100, as long as you give up everything that would make you want to live to be 100!

                              Current bikes:
                              '06 Suzuki DR650
                              *'82 XJ1100 with the 1179 kit. "Mad Maxim"
                              '82 XJ1100 Completely stock fixer-upper
                              '82 XJ1100 Bagger fixer-upper
                              '82 XJ1100 Motor/frame and lots of boxes of parts
                              '82 XJ1100 Parts bike
                              '81 XS1100 Special
                              '81 YZ250
                              '80 XS850 Special
                              '80 XR100
                              *Crashed/Totalled, still own

                              Comment

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