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  • tkat vs telefix fork brace

    Anyone want to give input on either of these 2 fork braces, or any others that might be out there.

    I am setting up a 78E for some longish rides which will include all the challenges of various road types and conditions; twisties, interstates and crappy.
    Thanks in advance.
    Scott
    I have a bike and I am not afraid to use it

  • #2
    I have both

    And I like the tkat better
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    • #3
      I've got a Tkat, and I like it a lot. Installation was real easy, and it does what it's supposed to. It comes in two different flavors - one for standards and one for specials.
      I think I have a loose screw behind the handlebars.

      '79 XS11 Standard, Jardine 4/1, Dyna DC1-1 Coils, 145 mains, 45 pilots, plastic floats - 25.7mm, XV920 fuel valves, inline fuel filters, speed bleeders, Mikes XS pods, spade-type fuse block, fork brace, progressive fork springs/shocks, manual petcocks, 750 FD, Venture cam chain tensioner, SS brake lines

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      • #4
        I'll point out one thing....

        I've only seen the Tkat brace, and it doesn't appear to have any adjustment for width variation. That may not be correct. But I do know the Telefix does and have used theirs on other bikes, and that's important to me.

        Basically, if you fully align your forks and front wheel without the brace, if you have to loosen any bolts to install the brace, you're throwing the alignment off. The Telefix brace can be installed without loosening any bolts.

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        • #5
          The Tkat brace does have ajustability for width variation. I run these braces and highly recommend them.

          http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=118
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          • #6
            Good point Steve, problem with that is you have another "hinged" point so to speak that offers a place for flexing. Tkats brace is an exact fit for both the special and standard without repositioning anything, and of course not adjustable which is good if you want the brace to eliminate fork flexing under laterall movement. There is even debate as to direction the pieces should attach each other. Directions of load forces seems to have always caused this debate, but being adjustable would NOT be an option for most who know the forces that are trying to be counter-acted using a fork brace......counter productive IMO.
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            • #7
              Here was my reasoning. Telefix is powdercoated, nice if you have a midnight maybe. Telefix cost more.

              Tkat is aluminium, looks to be at least mildly polished. Tkat is cheaper, many here use it. I may be wrong here but I dont think so.. Buying from Tkat supports an individual who is presumably also an XS enthusiast.

              Tkat won with me, thats why I sent him a check this week.
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              1980 XS1100G 1179 kit, Tkat brace, progressive springs & shocks, jardine spaghetti, Mikes coils, Geezer's rectifier

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              • #8
                I can only vouch for the Telefix. Had one since '04. Great fit and finish. Stability is worlds away from stock. FWIW, ANY brace would be an improvement.

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                • #9
                  I have the Tkat on my E and my LG. I painted it black for the LG.
                  The cross brace has slotted holes to custom fit it to your particular bike. Each bike may have slight variances between the fork legs to sit in the caliper/disc clearance.
                  Pat Kelly
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by bikerphil View Post
                    The Tkat brace does have ajustability for width variation. I run these braces and highly recommend them.

                    http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=118
                    They do have some adjustment from side to side, notice the oval shaped holes on the top.

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                    • #11
                      So... why does the special have a taller brace? Are the forks different at the top? (like at the bottom, where the special has the leading axle) I'm just asking several questions to satisfy my curiousity. The ridgidity is what makes the above argument. If a brace has several pieces that join together, it will be less ridgid than another that is solid. Another aspect is how the Special model brace will be ever so slightly less ridgid than the Std, due to the "risers" as they are called, which will allow the faintest amount of flex over the Std. Can anyone take a close up pic of a Special with the Special brace installed? (like to show any gap between brace and fender) I'm thinking the Special uses the risers to clear the fender, but if there is a 1/4 inch gap, the Std brace would be the way to go...
                      Last edited by daveyg; 10-22-2009, 07:22 AM.
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                      • #12
                        Specials have a taller brace to clear the fender.

                        TKAT brace is a great piece. Comes dull but a few minutes with some sandpaper and a burffer and it will shine like chrome.

                        Worth every bit of the price and you will instantly notice the difference.
                        Mike Giroir
                        79 XS-1100 Special

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                        • #13
                          Both braces made a world of difference in the handling on both bikes. If there is a difference in the stiffness between the standard ans taller special brace it is insignificant. You would have more difference with tire pressure and road surface effecting handling than between the two braces.
                          Maybe if you were road racing on the razors edge at the same track everyday and wanted that .000001 of a second in consistancy. But for normal people riding in the real world there is no difference between the two.
                          Pat Kelly
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                          1978 XS1100E (The Force)
                          1980 XS1100LG (The Dark Side)
                          2007 Dodge Ram 2500 quad-cab long-bed (Wifes ride)
                          1999 Suburban (The Ship)
                          1994 Dodge Spirit (Son #1)
                          1968 F100 (Valentine)

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                          • #14
                            what does it feel like?

                            What is the difference in a fork that is braced - what are we eliminating?

                            I have never ridden a bike that was "braced" so I am unsure if it is something I would need - if the ride feels OK without it - what would prompt me to add it?

                            Thanks
                            John in San Antonio
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                            • #15
                              going with TKAT

                              Thanks all, I am going to go with the TKAT. I am going to have some other requests for input on aftermarket changes, but promise not to start one of the dreaded oil or tire threads.
                              I have a bike and I am not afraid to use it

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