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1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
Duplicolor Mirage Paint Job (Purple/Green)
Vetter Windjammer IV
Vetter hard bags & Trunk
OEM Luggage Rack
Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
Spade Fuse Box
Turn Signal Auto Cancel Mod
750 FD Mod
TC Spin on Oil Filter Adapter (temp removed)
XJ1100 Front Footpegs
XJ1100 Shocks
I was always taught to respect my elders, but it keeps getting harder to find one.
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Originally posted by justme1100 View PostMy understanding is that the XJ has a brace built into (under) the front fender. If that isn't a brace under there it is an extremely beefy fender mount. With no experience with a Special or Standard I can't say if it is different.
An ideal brace would be a one-piece affair running straight across the tops of the sliders. But in practice, this is pretty much impossible due to variations in manufacturing tolerances; each brace would have to be 'fitted' to each bike. If I were trying to get the best possible performance out of the XS/XJ 37mm forks, I'd lean towards the Telefix brace as it is only three pieces as opposed to the TKat at five; fewer bolted 'joints' means fewer places for flex to occur. But given the inherent limitations of these forks, either one should satisfy all but the most 'banzai' of riders...Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two
'78E original owner - resto project
'78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
'82 XJ rebuild project
'80SG restified, red SOLD
'79F parts...
'81H more parts...
Other current bikes:
'93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
'86 XL883/1200 Chopper
'82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...
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I bought a vintage Micron fork brace on eBay a while ago. I had an XS1100 in the mid 1980's when Micron braces were all the rage. They fit perfectly and are made so that the rubber fork shrouds can be mounted on the top of them. They're a good, solid brace and do the job.XS1100F 1980 European model. Standard. Dyna coils. Iridium plugs. XS750 final drive (sometimes). Micron fork brace. Progressive front springs. Geezer regulator/rectifier. Stainless 4 into 2 exhaust. Auto CCT (Venturer 1300) SOLD. New project now on the go. 1980 European model.
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Having had both braces, I prefer the tkat brace a lot better.1980G Standard, Restored
Kerker 4 - 1
850 Rear End Mod
2-21 Flashing LED Arrays on either side of license plate for Brake Light Assist, 1100 Lumen Cree Aux Lights,
Progressive springs, Showa rear shocks
Automatic CCT
1980GH Special, Restored
Stock Exhaust, New Handlebars, 1" Spacer in Fork Springs, Automatic CCT, Showa Rear Shocks
'82 XJ1100 (Sold)
Automatic CCT, RC Engineering 4 X 1 Exhaust, K&N Pods, #50 Pilot Jets, YICS Eliminator. Sorely missed.
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Originally posted by Cobia View PostHaving had both braces, I prefer the tkat brace a lot better.Nathan
KD9ARL
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1978 XS1100E
K&N Filter
#45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
OEM Exhaust
ATK Fork Brace
LED Dash lights
Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters
Green Monster Coils
SS Brake Lines
Vision 550 Auto Tensioner
In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.
Theodore Roosevelt
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Wobble
Originally posted by cywelchjr View PostIn my experience, if it wobbles at low speed, a fork brace is not going to fix it. Most likely in this case to be the tires or the headstock bearings. I had a wobble at low speed in medium to tight turns and changed tires and it's gone. Still get a bit of a wobble in a straight line sometimes at low speeds, but only on some rides.
Was planning on changing steering head bearings next year. Will slowly get this Yami handling better.
This past week I romoved about six inches from the top of the Vetter front window. It was too tall. Lot less turbulance now, and I can see over the top and see where I am going.
Crusty
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Nathan,
It makes the forks feel more rigind and in synch. The teleflex allows more flex between the individual forks than the tkat one.1980G Standard, Restored
Kerker 4 - 1
850 Rear End Mod
2-21 Flashing LED Arrays on either side of license plate for Brake Light Assist, 1100 Lumen Cree Aux Lights,
Progressive springs, Showa rear shocks
Automatic CCT
1980GH Special, Restored
Stock Exhaust, New Handlebars, 1" Spacer in Fork Springs, Automatic CCT, Showa Rear Shocks
'82 XJ1100 (Sold)
Automatic CCT, RC Engineering 4 X 1 Exhaust, K&N Pods, #50 Pilot Jets, YICS Eliminator. Sorely missed.
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Originally posted by mharrington View PostWhat is the price of these braces?1980 SG. (Sold - waiting on replacement)
2000 XJR1300. The Real modern XS11. Others are just pretenders.
Woman (well, my wife anyway) are always on Transmit and never Receive.
"A man should look for what is, and not for what he thinks should be" Albert Einstien.
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Ditto here,
having had both, I too prefer the Tkat one. I think my Telefix was a cast piece that was not very "precise" and allowed more "felt" flex when ridden.
--Nick
Originally posted by Cobia View PostNathan,
It makes the forks feel more rigind and in synch. The teleflex allows more flex between the individual forks than the tkat one.
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I have a tkat one and I live in thw mnts. Itworks much better than stock but no where near as good as the racetech emulators!!! You can ride it like a crotch rocket!" She'll make point five past lightspeed. She may not look like much, but she's got it where it counts, kid. I've made a lot of special modifications myself. "
79 xs11 standard
xs pods, Kerker 4-1, zrx1200r carbs mikesxs coils 35k voltz of power!!!
8mm msd wires
tkat fork brace...
Fox shocks...
mikes650 front fender
led's gallore...
renthal bars
gold valve emulators
vmax tensioner
Rifle fairing
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Originally posted by crazy steve View PostWhile a fender will offer some help with fork rigidity, it's nowhere near as effective as a dedicated brace. Any sheetmetal 'bracing' that's U-shaped (whether it's a fender mount or a supposedly dedicated brace) will allow flex. The 'straighter' the connection between the tubes, the more effective the brace will be. That's why both the Telefix and Tkat braces mount as high on the sliders as possible. Anything that mounts to the fender points on these forks will be less effective.
An ideal brace would be a one-piece affair running straight across the tops of the sliders. But in practice, this is pretty much impossible due to variations in manufacturing tolerances; each brace would have to be 'fitted' to each bike. If I were trying to get the best possible performance out of the XS/XJ 37mm forks, I'd lean towards the Telefix brace as it is only three pieces as opposed to the TKat at five; fewer bolted 'joints' means fewer places for flex to occur. But given the inherent limitations of these forks, either one should satisfy all but the most 'banzai' of riders...Just ME and my 82 XJ 1100. Mac 4>1-2 1/2" open baffle shotgun, no octy, K&N pod filters, LED tail/brake light & directionals, 750 FD mod, Ear Cannon air horn, modified bars and dash. "Motorcyclists are all bound together by a brotherhood tie through their love of the sport, and what difference does it make what machine he rides as long as he belongs to the clan." Walter Davidson, Dec. 1920 edition of Harley-Davidson Enthusiast Magazine http://s851.photobucket.com/albums/ab78/justme1100/
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Originally posted by justme1100 View PostJust wondering, have you seen underneath the XJ front fender?Nathan
KD9ARL
μολὼν λαβέ
1978 XS1100E
K&N Filter
#45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
OEM Exhaust
ATK Fork Brace
LED Dash lights
Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters
Green Monster Coils
SS Brake Lines
Vision 550 Auto Tensioner
In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.
Theodore Roosevelt
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Originally posted by justme1100 View PostJust wondering, have you seen underneath the XJ front fender?Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two
'78E original owner - resto project
'78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
'82 XJ rebuild project
'80SG restified, red SOLD
'79F parts...
'81H more parts...
Other current bikes:
'93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
'86 XL883/1200 Chopper
'82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...
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