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Does anyone know if there is a deferencs in the frame rake on a standerd and special
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1979 xs1100 f
142 main, 45 pilot, Jardeen crosover 4/2, no air box
floats @ 25.7
1979 xs1100 F
1978 gl 1000 goldwing
1981 gl 1100 goldwing
!986 venture royale 1300
Just an ol long haired country boy, come to town to spend some egg money
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NO, the only difference is the triple tree.Ray Matteis
KE6NHG
XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it! -
They are both the same Rake = 29.5 degrees. As DiverRay mantioned, the only difference is the trees, which change the Trail between the Standards and Specials.1980 XS850SG - Sold
1981 XS1100LH Midnight Special (Sold) - purchased 9/29/08
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Was thinking about putting a special front end on a standard to get a longer wheelbase, get in trouble when i sit around and think to much, lol1979 xs1100 f
142 main, 45 pilot, Jardeen crosover 4/2, no air box
floats @ 25.7
1979 xs1100 F
1978 gl 1000 goldwing
1981 gl 1100 goldwing
!986 venture royale 1300
Just an ol long haired country boy, come to town to spend some egg money
when ya get bucked off, get back onComment
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Hi Bob, Ray, 'Bug,
Let's be clear about this whole thing.
Specials and Standards have identical 29.5º rake and 5.12" trail.
They are cosmetically different in that the Standard carries it's front axle at the bottom of the fork sliders
while the Special carries it's front axle on the front of the fork sliders and has shorter 'trees to keep the trail the same as a Standard.
If you swap in Standard 'trees on a Special yes you will get a longer wheelbase.
You will also get less trail and hence, lighter steering.
XS11 sidecar operators like myself and others have made this swap to lighten our rigs' steering.
Making the swap on a solo will of course lighten it's steering also.
Which can be OK if you are expecting it but perhaps not if you ain't.Fred Hill, S'toon
XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
"The Flying Pumpkin"Comment
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Just going for the look, use to ride them ol choppers years ago, cant be any worse than that, besides i think a little longer wheel base rides better, just thinking out loud, never know what i will do, lol
i am like the gov. i am gona fix it untill its broke1979 xs1100 f
142 main, 45 pilot, Jardeen crosover 4/2, no air box
floats @ 25.7
1979 xs1100 F
1978 gl 1000 goldwing
1981 gl 1100 goldwing
!986 venture royale 1300
Just an ol long haired country boy, come to town to spend some egg money
when ya get bucked off, get back onComment
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Swappin' around
Hi Bob,Originally posted by cowboybob998 View Post
yeah, you can swap in a Special's entire front forks and fender (the fenders look the same but they bolt up different) onto your Standard to get the longer look but you will be stuck with the Special's Weird Harold front brakes.
Doing this will not change the wheelbase or alter the steering apart from whatever handling changes that may be caused by the differences in the fork internals.
Keeping the Standard 'trees while you do this will give about 1½" longer wheelbase and also quicken the steering.Last edited by fredintoon; 05-12-2009, 08:34 AM.Fred Hill, S'toon
XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
"The Flying Pumpkin"Comment
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