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  • BigDick
    XSive Maximus
    • Apr 2007
    • 521
    • McConnell AFB, KS

    #46
    I didn't pull the H clip yet tonight, I may get bored and do it still yet. If not first thing in the morning. I got distracted installing new progressive springs in my forks. I did take a few pictures, should I throw together a tech tip on the installation process? (it was a lot easier than I thought.
    1980 XS11SG
    Dunlop elite 3's, progressive fork springs, tkat brace
    Stock motor, airbox, carbs, exhaust
    ratted out, mean, and nasty

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    • b.walker5
      XS-XJ Guru
      • Feb 2009
      • 1745
      • Invercargill, New Zealand

      #47
      Draft Drawing

      Okay, 1st draft drawing of a retainer clip.



      Needs further work and dimensions but it's a start. Will do detailled plan and a cutting template as well.

      Critique and suggestions please..
      1980 SG. (Sold - waiting on replacement)
      2000 XJR1300. The Real modern XS11. Others are just pretenders.

      Woman (well, my wife anyway) are always on Transmit and never Receive.

      "A man should look for what is, and not for what he thinks should be" Albert Einstien.

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      • dbeardslee
        XS-XJ Super Guru
        • Nov 2007
        • 4385
        • Maineville, OH

        #48
        Brian - I'm impressed! That drawing even has perspective. Devlish clever these cad programs .
        I think I have a loose screw behind the handlebars.

        '79 XS11 Standard, Jardine 4/1, Dyna DC1-1 Coils, 145 mains, 45 pilots, plastic floats - 25.7mm, XV920 fuel valves, inline fuel filters, speed bleeders, Mikes XS pods, spade-type fuse block, fork brace, progressive fork springs/shocks, manual petcocks, 750 FD, Venture cam chain tensioner, SS brake lines

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        • BigDick
          XSive Maximus
          • Apr 2007
          • 521
          • McConnell AFB, KS

          #49
          no complaints here chief, that looks just like the one I took off.
          1980 XS11SG
          Dunlop elite 3's, progressive fork springs, tkat brace
          Stock motor, airbox, carbs, exhaust
          ratted out, mean, and nasty

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          • b.walker5
            XS-XJ Guru
            • Feb 2009
            • 1745
            • Invercargill, New Zealand

            #50
            Some dimensions...

            Haven't had much time to devote to this in recent days, but here are some updated basic drawings with measurements. Sorry guy's they're in metric, we went metric years ago and these are japanese bikes we're talking about. If I get a chance over the weekend, I'll do a 3D render of the clip and make it look like it was done by someone who knows what they're doing.





            Have'nt made one yet so not sure of fit. Measurements were obtained by converting supplied imperial sizes. Will adjust and update as and if required to make it fit.
            Last edited by b.walker5; 04-28-2009, 03:43 AM.
            1980 SG. (Sold - waiting on replacement)
            2000 XJR1300. The Real modern XS11. Others are just pretenders.

            Woman (well, my wife anyway) are always on Transmit and never Receive.

            "A man should look for what is, and not for what he thinks should be" Albert Einstien.

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            • dbeardslee
              XS-XJ Super Guru
              • Nov 2007
              • 4385
              • Maineville, OH

              #51
              Brian - I'm impressed! Nicely done drawing.
              I think I have a loose screw behind the handlebars.

              '79 XS11 Standard, Jardine 4/1, Dyna DC1-1 Coils, 145 mains, 45 pilots, plastic floats - 25.7mm, XV920 fuel valves, inline fuel filters, speed bleeders, Mikes XS pods, spade-type fuse block, fork brace, progressive fork springs/shocks, manual petcocks, 750 FD, Venture cam chain tensioner, SS brake lines

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              • BigDick
                XSive Maximus
                • Apr 2007
                • 521
                • McConnell AFB, KS

                #52
                not complaining or nit picking or anything, but. . . . when giving/getting dimensions for sheet metal that will be broke (bent on a brake) aren't you supposed to add half of the thickness of the material? When i worked in a sheet metal factory i'm pretty sure that's the "formula" we used. For example: The material is .048" thick, you want a flange that is .5" long, don't you start your brake at .524" from the raw edge? (sorry about the imperial dimensions, but it's just for a "what if" scenerio) I didn't do the conversions from metric to imperial from the dimensions you've given, if you've already taken the length eaten up in the bends I apologize.
                1980 XS11SG
                Dunlop elite 3's, progressive fork springs, tkat brace
                Stock motor, airbox, carbs, exhaust
                ratted out, mean, and nasty

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                • b.walker5
                  XS-XJ Guru
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 1745
                  • Invercargill, New Zealand

                  #53
                  Originally posted by BigDick
                  not complaining or nit picking or anything, but. . . . when giving/getting dimensions for sheet metal that will be broke (bent on a brake) aren't you supposed to add half of the thickness of the material? When i worked in a sheet metal factory i'm pretty sure that's the "formula" we used. For example: The material is .048" thick, you want a flange that is .5" long, don't you start your brake at .524" from the raw edge? (sorry about the imperial dimensions, but it's just for a "what if" scenerio) I didn't do the conversions from metric to imperial from the dimensions you've given, if you've already taken the length eaten up in the bends I apologize.
                  Ha...., someone that knows. You are absolutely correct and tolerances will be added to final drawings. These are just the basic drafts from which i'll build one clip to see what, if anything, needs changed and then update the drawings accordingly. Good spotting
                  1980 SG. (Sold - waiting on replacement)
                  2000 XJR1300. The Real modern XS11. Others are just pretenders.

                  Woman (well, my wife anyway) are always on Transmit and never Receive.

                  "A man should look for what is, and not for what he thinks should be" Albert Einstien.

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                  • Ken Talbot
                    XS-XJ Super Guru
                    • Jun 2002
                    • 4251
                    • Revelstoke, BC

                    #54
                    What, nobody volunteering to take a perfectly good one and pound it out flat so we can be sure?
                    Ken Talbot

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                    • dbeardslee
                      XS-XJ Super Guru
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 4385
                      • Maineville, OH

                      #55
                      Ken - lol, that was funny.
                      I think I have a loose screw behind the handlebars.

                      '79 XS11 Standard, Jardine 4/1, Dyna DC1-1 Coils, 145 mains, 45 pilots, plastic floats - 25.7mm, XV920 fuel valves, inline fuel filters, speed bleeders, Mikes XS pods, spade-type fuse block, fork brace, progressive fork springs/shocks, manual petcocks, 750 FD, Venture cam chain tensioner, SS brake lines

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                      • timktm
                        Truly XSive
                        • Dec 2015
                        • 169
                        • Ohio

                        #56
                        I know this is an old thread but has anyone found a supplier of these? I am missing one.
                        Thanks,
                        Tim
                        1979 xs1100sf black.
                        1973 Harley fx.
                        2005 Honda 450x.

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                        • MaximPhil
                          XS-XJ Super Guru
                          • May 2004
                          • 4119
                          • Mississauga, ON CANADA

                          #57
                          Originally posted by timktm
                          I know this is an old thread but has anyone found a supplier of these? I am missing one.
                          Thanks,
                          Tim
                          Hi Tim,
                          Check with http://www.partsnmore.com/parts/yamaha/xs1100/?filters[category]=chassis#product-99-5000

                          for the Brake Pads. The last set I bought came with those clips. Send them an email asking if the pads still include the clips.
                          Or check with your local aftermarket parts store.
                          I doubt you will find the clips only for less $$ than a set of pads from above vendor.
                          Phil
                          1981 XS1100 H Venturer ( Addie)
                          1983 XJ 650 Maxim
                          2004 Kawasaki Concours. ( Black Bear)

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                          • timktm
                            Truly XSive
                            • Dec 2015
                            • 169
                            • Ohio

                            #58
                            I'm looking for the clip that goes into the fork not the caliper.
                            1979 xs1100sf black.
                            1973 Harley fx.
                            2005 Honda 450x.

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                            • Prothec
                              XSive Maximus
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 587
                              • Fort Myers, FL

                              #59
                              There's currently a used one on e-bay:

                              $17.49


                              Partzilla shows the part interchanges with the bike they have listed on e-bay:
                              http://www.partzilla.com/parts/detai...849-01-00.html
                              82J · 81SH · 79SF Fire Damage · 78E · 79F Parts Bike · 04 Buell Blast
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                              • timktm
                                Truly XSive
                                • Dec 2015
                                • 169
                                • Ohio

                                #60
                                Wow that's crazy. I just might try and make something up.
                                1979 xs1100sf black.
                                1973 Harley fx.
                                2005 Honda 450x.

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