Rattling front brakes

[dbeardslee]

Brian - been doing a little looking around, and here's what I've been able to come up with so far. First, lets start with the parts image for an 81SH - same brakes, same clips, but for some reason the yamaha fiche doesn't show part numbers on the sg but does for the sh.


The parts you are looking for are 9-22 (2G2-25919-00-00) and 10-23 (2G2-25849-01-00).

I found an outfit that lists the 9-22 for $8.16 ea. Here's a link - NW Vintage Cycle Parts. I checked the cost for shipping to New Zealand at the US Post Office, and the cheapest you can send a 1 pound package was around $10. That's probably a slow boat to New Zealand, and I don't know if NW will ship that way. Air shipment was outrageous as I'm sure you're aware. You might try e-mailing them for the details.

On part 10-23, I'm drawing a blank so far. Found an outfit that had them in the UK, but alas, they seem to be gone. I did however find a good image of the part. Here it is -



Although I can't find the part, they don't look too terrible difficult to make out of some sheet steel. Judging by the look of your shop from the fork polishing thread, you're pretty good with your hands. I don't know if any other members could provide dimensions, but I would be willing to bet you could come pretty close using your existing parts and knowing where they go.

I'm still going to try the other source tomorrow, and I'll let you know what I find out.

[b.walker5]

I found 10-23 (2G2-25849-01-00) at NW Vintage as well, for $9.18, and they show 45 in stock, but they dont specify if thats for a pair or per clip given that two per caliper are needed. I've emailled the question and will wait on the answer.

You're right, I probably could make them. I have small press and folders, along with welders and numerous other tools, and if someone could provide measurements that would be great, but on the other hand I'm getting old, and lazy and if they're not too expensive it might not be worth the time.

Thanks for your efforts so far, it's appreciated.

[CatatonicBug]

that two per caliper are needed.

Are you sure? The fische only shows one clip per caliper. The picture of the part with the bag shows that the part number would provide 2 clips (one for each caliper, since one would assume you are replacing both sides at the same time.

[dbeardslee]

Cat - that's the way I'm reading it too. If you look at the fiche it will normally tell you the quantity required where the part numbers are listed. Looks to me like you need one of each per caliper. How many clips are on your midnight special?

Brian - at least we're getting warmer.

[b.walker5]

Doh.. You're right of course. must have been out in the sun too long I looked at the part number listing and seen that 2 were required but never considered that there were 2 calipers. Someone at NW Vintage must be scratching their head about now thinking "what the ...."

[CatatonicBug]

Cat - that's the way I'm reading it too. If you look at the fiche it will normally tell you the quantity required where the part numbers are listed. Looks to me like you need one of each per caliper. How many clips are on your midnight special?

The MNS is a little different setup, and has different clips and different shaped brake pads.

[DGXSER]

Hey Catatonic, I think that is the same for all Specials, not seen a midnight, but the specials have the sloped brake pads that I think the Midnights have as well.

I believe the only mechanical difference I have noted so far from the specials and the midnights is the linked brake system. Of Course, there may well be others I have not noted to date.

[CatatonicBug]

Hey Catatonic, I think that is the same for all Specials, not seen a midnight, but the specials have the sloped brake pads that I think the Midnights have as well.

I believe the only mechanical difference I have noted so far from the specials and the midnights is the linked brake system. Of Course, there may well be others I have not noted to date.

Nope. No sloped pads on the front of the '81 MNS. They are sloped on the back though. Here's a link to the fische for it. Not sure about the '80 though.

[dbeardslee]

Brian - We may just get lucky. I checked with my friend, and he said he thinks he may have some clips. He's checking and said he would get back with me, so keep your fingers crossed.

[XSPastor]

Don't give up...

I think the pads partsnmore sells come with the clips - unfortunately they were out of stock last tuesday. Here's a link - Partsnmore brake parts. I just got a set of pads from Z1 today, and they did not come with them.

I went to order a valve cover gasket from Partsnmore and it was out of stock also so I sent them an email to be notified and got the email the same day. They said they forgot to update the website. All that to say, send an emai - they might not actually be out of stock. You'll have to order the pads but they come with the anti-rattle clips. Sixteen bucks is a good price. Worth a try anyway...

[dbeardslee]

Tim - I already got pads, and was able to reuse my clips. We were trying to find 'em for an 80SG for Brian, and they didn't show the clips in the parts image for the SG. You're right - $16 bucks is a good price. I wound up paying $21 and some change at Z1. My fault for the confusion, as I was initially looking at the wrong pads on partsnmore.

[DGXSER]

FYI, I just checked the set of pads I got for my SH from P&M. No clips in there. Two pads, the pin to hold them and the squeeze clamp to hold the pin, thats it.

[dbeardslee]

Thanks for the verification, Don. You still da man.

[dbeardslee]

The saga continues

Well, I got the clips from my friend and he say's they're for a special. Unfortunately I think they're for the rear brakes on a special. Here's a pic of what I've got -



I think they might possible be made to work, but it would require straightening the pieces by the red arrows, and some new metal welded in where the gray and black are. Hope you're following my thought process - photobucket is somewhat limited in their editing tools. However we're back to dimensions again, as I'm assuming they're about the same size as the clips we're looking for, but I don't know. Still tryin' though .

[b.walker5]

Okay... now i need to check my back brakes, They dont rattle but i dont remember seeing those clips last time i done pads