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  • GARTHXS
    XS-XJ Guru
    • Nov 2007
    • 1631
    • Seattle

    #1

    wont start

    first of all let me tell you what i have done, bassani 4/1 w repacked baffle, pod filters, 142.5 mains, 42.5 pilot jets this a 78xs1100e bike turns over I have the choke all the way out, white smoke out the pipe and then POW backfire , pulled plugs and their wet. is it just flooded??
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  • Gyrogearloose
    Truly XSive
    • Sep 2007
    • 162
    • Coupeville, WA

    #2
    We need more info. Is this the first attempt to start it after puting it back together?..are all the plugs wet? If so, yes, it could just be flooded. Leave the plugs out, and dry them off with compressed air. You didn't say whether you checked for spark? Hook up a plug (after drying) and lay it somewhere on the engine to ground it out (the threads of the plug on the engine metal)...prefereably not next to the spark plug hole, unless you want to trim your eyebrows. Then turn the engine over (a low light environment is best) and watch for the spark. Gas plus spark; it should fire and run.
    Geno

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    • GARTHXS
      XS-XJ Guru
      • Nov 2007
      • 1631
      • Seattle

      #3
      wont start

      I will check for spark , I just rejetted it and put on 4/1
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      • GARTHXS
        XS-XJ Guru
        • Nov 2007
        • 1631
        • Seattle

        #4
        it fired up

        it started but now revs up to 4-5k and idle and wont come down , too lean??
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        • ScottsXS
          Truly XSive
          • Sep 2005
          • 169
          • Demotte, IN

          #5
          did you move the throttle cable it may be binding or being pulled by handle bars. and is running that fast on choke or without the choke
          when in doubt...get a bigger hammer
          '78 XS11e, '79 XS11sf,'81 Mazda RX7, '83 XJ650lj Turbo, '95 Ford F150, '93 Chevy K2500, '04 Honda Pilot,
          '89 Arctic Cat Wildcat, '89 Arctic Cat El Tigre 530, '81 Arctic Cat Trailcat 340, '79 john deere trailfire 440,
          '78 Cadillac Seville
          Don't steal the government hates competition

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          • GARTHXS
            XS-XJ Guru
            • Nov 2007
            • 1631
            • Seattle

            #6
            free

            The apears to be free
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            • GARTHXS
              XS-XJ Guru
              • Nov 2007
              • 1631
              • Seattle

              #7
              oops

              The throttle apears to be free
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              • oldyam80sg
                XS-XJ Guru
                • Apr 2007
                • 2043
                • Hackettstown , New Jersey

                #8
                Did you do the bread wire tie pre-sync? I just did it on mine and forgot to set the master adjuster knob back where it was originally.That gave me a high idle until i turned it outwards.Just a thought.
                1980 XS1100 SG
                Inline fuel filters
                New wires in old coils-outer spark plugs
                160 mph speedometer mod
                Kerker Exhaust
                xschop K & N air filter setup
                Dynojet Recalibration kit
                1999 Kawasaki ZRX1100
                1997 Jeep Cherokee 4.5"lift installed

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                • planedick
                  XS-XJ Guru
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 2068
                  • Yorba Linda, California

                  #9
                  Definately

                  needs to be synched. You can play with it for weeks and if it isn't properly synched it won't idle or run right.....
                  You can't stay young forever, but you can be immature for the rest of your life...

                  '78E "Pathfinder" Show bike...
                  Lovingly restored by Dave Delzell
                  Drilled airbox
                  Tkat fork brace
                  Hardly mufflers
                  late model carbs
                  Newer style fuses
                  Oil pressure guage
                  Custom security system
                  Stainless braid brake lines

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                  • GARTHXS
                    XS-XJ Guru
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 1631
                    • Seattle

                    #10
                    sync

                    My buddy synced it last week,I think its fuel mix or jetting
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                    • AustinPhoenix
                      Truly XSive
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 112
                      • Austin, TX

                      #11
                      here's what I did

                      I JUST finished my bike...well..for now. After putting everything back on, it revved up to 4-5k too. Another XSive told me to pre-sync again, turn the idle knob (the big knob between carbs 2 and 3...up front I think on yours) to close the butterflies all the way, put the idle screws to 1/2 turn out and slowly back each one out until the bike barely idles so you can slowly open the idle knob to get it to idle at roughly 1k. It takes some patience, but it worked for me. It helps if you turn the tank around, turn the petcocks on (or prime for me), and plug up your vacuum lines.

                      Then you can sync and color tune or whatever else you want to do to get her purring.

                      Anybody feel free to correct me.
                      Last edited by AustinPhoenix; 05-28-2008, 09:29 PM.
                      1980 XS11g Standard - "Ash"
                      4 to 2 Exhaust
                      K&N Pod Filters
                      Fuel Filters
                      Inline shut off valves
                      Slotted Rotors
                      My heart and soul

                      Soon to have stainless lines, xs750 FD, lightened rotors, and HID headlight

                      1979 Special Project Bike
                      Non-gasoline conversion

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                      • planedick
                        XS-XJ Guru
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 2068
                        • Yorba Linda, California

                        #12
                        I know

                        Some of us just have to learn our lessons the hard way.
                        You can't stay young forever, but you can be immature for the rest of your life...

                        '78E "Pathfinder" Show bike...
                        Lovingly restored by Dave Delzell
                        Drilled airbox
                        Tkat fork brace
                        Hardly mufflers
                        late model carbs
                        Newer style fuses
                        Oil pressure guage
                        Custom security system
                        Stainless braid brake lines

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                        • GARTHXS
                          XS-XJ Guru
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 1631
                          • Seattle

                          #13
                          sync

                          What's the easy way?
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                          • DiverRay
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 7605
                            • Star, IDAHO

                            #14
                            What's the easy way?
                            The easy way is pay someone about $150 and hope they do a good job. The CORRECT way was given by AustinPhoenix, except he left off the part about the fan to keep the engine from over heating.
                            Ray Matteis
                            KE6NHG
                            XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
                            XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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                            • GARTHXS
                              XS-XJ Guru
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 1631
                              • Seattle

                              #15
                              bread tie

                              So pre sync with bread tie or some other small width thing
                              And then check fuel mix then vacuum sync then fuel mix again, and possibly rejet and. All of the former again?
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