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  • xschop
    XS-XJ Guru
    • Feb 2006
    • 1794
    • oklahoma city

    #31
    adapter adaptation

    Unless the adapter itself could be tapped for oil cooler? T.C.??? That's the only reason I don't have a SOFA for the Bluestreak....
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    • DiverRay
      Moderator
      • Nov 2004
      • 7602
      • Star, IDAHO

      #32
      I would think that if the bottom of the adapter was set up for a spin-on, then it would only take the mounting stud that TC uses to make it work. Just my thoughts drifting around on a Tuesday afternoon...
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      • 81xsproject
        XS-XJ Super Guru
        • Nov 2004
        • 3185
        • Fortuna, CA

        #33
        It seems like there are enough of us with coolers that we need a SOFA solution too
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        • HobbyMan
          MeatHead Idiot "GURU"
          • Jul 2006
          • 1801
          • Colleyville, TX

          #34
          In theory, you could mount TC's adaptor on the oil cooler plate. That would make the flter stick out a little low. Besides modifying TC's adaptor, the only way to have an oil cooler would be to use the pressure feed to the head. I would not prefer this because it is not effective enough.
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          • MAXIMAN
            XS-XJ Guru
            • Jan 2005
            • 1817
            • As far from the government as humanly possible.

            #35
            Originally posted by 81xsproject
            Does the xs/xj system or the thermostat have some kind of bypass in case the thermostat ever fails to open? Would that failure cause the oil circulation to stop?
            If the valve is closed it circulates oil through the cooler...if it's open it circulates back to the engine

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            • MAXIMAN
              XS-XJ Guru
              • Jan 2005
              • 1817
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              #36
              Originally posted by 81xsproject
              TC will probably beat me for this, but it seems like there sould be a way to combine the adapter plate and an automotive filter adapter so us folks with coolers could also run regular oil filters. But, since I don't really understand either, I don't know. All I know is that TC said that having an adapter AND one of his SOFA's would make the filter too low to the ground.
              I've already done it. I have the OEM adapter plate with TC SOFA screwed into that. Works like a charm!

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              • 81xsproject
                XS-XJ Super Guru
                • Nov 2004
                • 3185
                • Fortuna, CA

                #37
                How much clearance do you have, and didn't you go to a 4-1 when you re-did the bike? And what filter are you using?
                '81 XS1100 SH

                Melted to the ground during The Valley Fire

                Sep. 12th 2015

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                • MAXIMAN
                  XS-XJ Guru
                  • Jan 2005
                  • 1817
                  • As far from the government as humanly possible.

                  #38
                  man you ask a lot of questions!

                  But seriously...my 4-1 header allows the spin on filter to hang between the 2-3 header pipes. The bottom of the header is lower than the filter so ground clearance is not a problem.

                  With the original filter cover the header would clear...but I had to drop the header to change the filter. That's why I went to the SOFA. I hangs perfectly where I can simply spin it off and replace it. Works great.

                  It uses the same filter as the newer V-Max.

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                  • mro
                    XS-XJ Super Guru
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 4276
                    • Hayward, California

                    #39
                    You could use an in-line filter mounted with the oil cooler lines.
                    Not sure where you could put it tho.


                    mro

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                    • TopCatGr58
                      Administrator
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 12650
                      • Portsmouth, Va.

                      #40
                      Re: adapter adaptation

                      Originally posted by xschop
                      Unless the adapter itself could be tapped for oil cooler? T.C.??? That's the only reason I don't have a SOFA for the Bluestreak....
                      Hey Chop and Jesse,

                      Like Maximan, I too have 4-1 pipes with a decent space between headers 2-3 to allow the filter access. Also, my headers are stacked on top of each other, so they do stick down an inch or so below the standard 4-2 style OEM headers. Also, folks with Standards, as well as having lowered their machines have the bottom of the engine even closer to the ground, so that's why ground clearance "MAY" be a problem for some applications.

                      These photos are in the tech tip for the SOFA.
                      Just the SOFA and filter on my bike with the 4-1 headers:


                      This next one is cooler plate AND SOFA and filter, note the level of the bottom of the filter relative to the headers:


                      Finally, this is the Cooler plate. Note the large mounting nut/pipe used to mount the cooler plate, the SOFA mounting pipe just screws into that, just like the OEM engine case threaded hole!


                      Due to the design of the SOFA and it spinning up into place is part of the problem in designing it as a combo cooler/SOFA and still allow the use of the SMALLER spin on filters. You wouldn't be able determine the position of the cooler line attachment holes for one. Also, the cooler plate has a bypass valve built into it, so IF the cooler lines get clogged, it will bypass the cooler and go directly into the filter chamber....that feature is also more complicated to manufacture/machine than I know how or want to do!

                      Chop, I'll be happy to send you the specs for the SOFA so if you wanted to try to make one and adapt it for a combo cooler/sofa design!
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                      • xschop
                        XS-XJ Guru
                        • Feb 2006
                        • 1794
                        • oklahoma city

                        #41
                        specs

                        I would'nt want to invade your area of expertise. you have a great design there and will want one for my chain drive chop which I have my hands full....send me the specs and I will look at it and see if it is a go....chop....
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                        • John
                          XS-XJ Super Guru
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 5117

                          #42
                          I don't think there is a bypass in the OEM cooler plate is there? It is incorporated in the filter mounting bolt.
                          Last edited by John; 04-11-2007, 08:17 PM.

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                          • xschop
                            XS-XJ Guru
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 1794
                            • oklahoma city

                            #43
                            good question

                            I really haven't looked into the lockhart style one that I have on mine....or into TC's for that matter. I am just curious if TC's adapter can be modified for oil cooler lines. Now that would be the schizzle....I don't want to drop headers later to change the oil.....me so lazy!
                            MDRNF
                            79F.....Not Stock
                            80G......Not Stock Either....In the works

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                            • MAXIMAN
                              XS-XJ Guru
                              • Jan 2005
                              • 1817
                              • As far from the government as humanly possible.

                              #44
                              Re: good question

                              Originally posted by xschop
                              I don't want to drop headers later to change the oil.....me so lazy!
                              No Chop..."you so smart"... Get the Sofa...you won't regret it.

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                              • red bandit
                                XSive Maximus
                                • May 2005
                                • 950
                                • central michigan

                                #45
                                Re: good question

                                [QUOTE]Originally posted by xschop
                                [B] I am just curious if TC's adapter can be modified for oil cooler lines. Now that would be the schizzle.


                                That shouldn't be to hard. Start with a new 1 from TC that hasn't been drilled yet. Drill 2 holes for fittings on the dia. 1 goes to the filter side, 1 goes to the engine side.
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