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  • #31
    Month ago was back when I wasn't feeling to well. Much better now thank you.

    Extruded means the billet was pushed through a die to achieve the desired shape. The angle and Ibeam you see at the hardware store is all extruded. It will not be as uniform in density as rolled stock. I think what is being called cold forged is really a rolling operation. Just think of the difference between shoving gob of clay through a hole, and rolling it between your palms to form a rod.

    For your purposes, there is no real difference, to achieve the correct finish might require a slightly different shape on the cutting tool, ie relief, rake angle and all the other stuff you really don't want to have to learn, but your going to be forced to pretty soon.

    Steve
    80 XS1100G Standard - YammerHammer
    73 Yamaha DT3 - DirtyHairy
    62 Norton Atlas - AgileFragile (Dunstalled) waiting reassembly
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    • #32
      Originally posted by LoserShoes
      Month ago was back when I wasn't feeling to well. Much better now thank you.

      Extruded means the billet was pushed through a die to achieve the desired shape. The angle and Ibeam you see at the hardware store is all extruded. It will not be as uniform in density as rolled stock. I think what is being called cold forged is really a rolling operation. Just think of the difference between shoving gob of clay through a hole, and rolling it between your palms to form a rod.

      For your purposes, there is no real difference, to achieve the correct finish might require a slightly different shape on the cutting tool, ie relief, rake angle and all the other stuff you really don't want to have to learn, but your going to be forced to pretty soon.

      Steve
      Steve,

      Sorry to hear about your recent illness, glad you are better now! I've got lots of tool stock to make more cutting tools, guess I'll be experimenting a bit on the shapes and speeds. I had been advancing the tool very slowly and taking only 0.01" worth of material off of the final surface, but either my tool wasn't as sharp as needed, or I moved it across the face too fast?

      I had learned about what Extruded vs. Cold Rolled was, but didn't know the specs, ie. density, etc. and how it might affect the machinability, finish,etc.. Thanks for the confirmation. I'll be sticking with cold rolled material for parts that need lots of strength, but like you said, I think these extruded blanks will be more than satisfactory for the S.O.F.A.'s!
      T.C.
      T. C. Gresham
      81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
      79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
      History shows again and again,
      How nature points out the folly of men!

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      • #33
        TC, I have a feeling that you are going to reinvent some pretty cool things this winter.
        Skids (Sid Hansen)

        Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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        • #34
          just a thought

          originally posted by TC
          Are you saying I should try to make them out of plastic??
          The site didn't have any listing for ALUMINUM!?
          Operating temps over 500 F
          Easy to work
          Cheaper???

          Not sure how "visible" the sofa is or how plastic would look.


          mro

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          • #35
            Originally posted by skids
            TC, I have a feeling that you are going to reinvent some pretty cool things this winter.
            Well, if Jeff gets his CNC stuff up, then he'll probably put me out of business for much of this stuff!! I'm hoping to do a few projects, but I also want to work on Godzilla some more. I've just about gotten my garage cleaned out enough to give me some working room. I want to put an XJ tank on it, make some custom tank badges. I also need to do some work on my frame putting on some gussets/braces to the neck where it got bent, along with some other places on the frame to see if I can stiffen it up! I might have to make some engine mounts also!?

            I've got new plug wires, caps, MikesXS coils, and will be transferring the castoffs to my basket case machine that's been neglected this past year, but I want to get it up and running also!

            Just wish I was retired, so I could have more free time!!
            T.C.
            T. C. Gresham
            81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
            79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
            History shows again and again,
            How nature points out the folly of men!

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            • #36
              How about some custom design exhaust mounts?
              "Beware of any man that owns a pig farm"
              "Hence the meaning of the Saying,.. As greedy as a pig"
              79 XS1100 modified standard
              Chain Drive, Monoshock,extendend hand built swingarm, 200 rear
              pod filters,150 mains,45 pilots
              straight pipe 4-2 exhaust
              new to me 05 Kawasaki zxr12r man does she fly
              Owned 83 Honda V65 Magna
              Owned 02 Vstar 650 classic
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              • #37
                If you are going to be grinding your own bits you might consider this Harbor Freight Grinder


                It's on my list of "gotta gets" but I'm not quite there yet. It's highly recommened on the yahoo groups.

                Steve
                80 XS1100G Standard - YammerHammer
                73 Yamaha DT3 - DirtyHairy
                62 Norton Atlas - AgileFragile (Dunstalled) waiting reassembly
                Norton Electra - future restore
                CZ 400 MX'er
                68 Ducati Scrambler
                RC Planes and Helis

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                • #38
                  Hey Steve,

                  Glad to hear that it's thought highly of. I've got a Harbor Freight store here where I live! Northern Tool also! . I've got a basic 6" dual wheel grinder, and a bowl of water!! I've gotten some good tips from XSWilly on how to grind my own tools, and have made several already! I also resharpen them often as well! I have to admit, that using WD-40 on the parts has made things go better, but I'll keep that tool grinder in mind!
                  T.C.
                  T. C. Gresham
                  81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
                  79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
                  History shows again and again,
                  How nature points out the folly of men!

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                  • #39
                    I'd actually love to have my own foundry. I think billet parts are awesome, but to me there is beauty in a casting. I used to work in foundry way back when, so maybe that is why I feel that way.

                    so basically I want to have my cake and eat it too :-)

                    Dan
                    Home of ENIAC

                    Kinda like a MANIAC with 2 letters difference & a computer on board

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