Shinko tire travesty

[Bonz]

Yeah, I have read a ton about it too, and most say what you just said about the power.

Is that the $150 big bore off ebay?

[BA80]

You can. I know several people that have done that and they say it doesn't do much for extra power though.

I can PM you a link for an inexpensive 1196 kit if you want.

[Bonz]

Well, I still can use it as a reason to need a Big Bore, right?

[BA80]

Everyone I know and ride with that have presumably good engines, including myself, get about the same oil consumption. Some more, some less depending on riding habits. I've been known to bury the tach when I'm out playing.

Under normal circumstances I have to put in about 1 quart between changes but when we have a twisty fest somewhere sometimes I need to put in 2.

[Bonz]

The problem with the 80G using a quart every 800 miles, is I AM taking it easy to see if that keeps it from consuming oil!

I run the bikes pretty much the same, defintely not nursing along. With runs to high rpm and up over the ton when safe, extended highway use at high rpm by virtue of the short gearing on the XS 11000's, safe and quick passes on two lane roads where lower gears are used and thus higher rpm attained.

I don't abuse my engine, but I sure use it and get a lot out of it. Maybe that is where the difference is in what kind of bikes burn a lot of oil as the norm and others that don't?

I guess I have higher expectations of equipment performance than most guys then? It's frustrating to have an engine consume oil at a rate of a quart every 800 miles when deep inside we all know these machines in good internal shape shouldn't do that.

To re-qualify, I would say that when I don't lose an appreciable amount of oil in the sight glass (1/4 or 1/2 loss in the sight glass from full at most) over an oil change interval, i.e. don't have to add oil, that an engine is not consuming oil. Technically there has to be some consumed, no qualms there.

Those bikes that are being called normal must be bikes that were run pretty hard and hung up wet or they had some poor maintenance along the way to create an image that a quart 800-1000 miles is normal.

[BA80]

It's your story, you tell it. If there is someone here that says they don't use any oil between changes I'll show you someone who nurses his bike or they would be lying in my opinion.

Like it or not that IS the fact. Try the 20W50. It might make you like it a little more.

[Bonz]

I really dislike that "1 quart every 1,000 miles is the norm" stuff it's a bull crap catch-all that manufacturers use to cover their butt... Now, on a 34 year old bike I'm not looking to Yamaha, but then every other bike I've owned in the past (other 80's vintage bikes included), and my current other bikes, ZRX1200 and 80SG are totally outside of the norm, as they don't lose an ounce over an oil change interval...

This is a rapid loss of oil in my book, for the sake of discussion we'll say every 800 miles as I'm probably being generous stretching that to 1,000 miles.

So, let's say I switch to 20w-50, even though every other air cooled motor I've had lives on 15w-40 without consuming oil. If I have an oil control ring problem, does the 20w-50 stand a chance of stemming the oil use? That is the question...

Or do I have the perfect candidate for a BIG BORE to freshen things up?

[BA80]

A quart about every 1000 miles is about the norm. You should be running 20w50 anyway. The lighter oils don't hold up well in the air cooled engines.

[Bonz]

So, my project 80G is using oil but not smoking, would that be oil control rings? i.e. 1 qt of 15w-40 every 800-1000 miles?

Would a switch to 20w-50 help the cause any?

This is a serious queery, thanks for the reminder about oil!

[BA80]

Try talking about OIL!!!!!!

[Bonz]

This thread has morphed around a bunch, so what's up next for discussion fella's?

[GLoweVA]

I fell bad for hijacking this thread,, sorry. SO, my seals should be shipped out today and get them this week. Does anyone know of a good source to get the whole valve that screws into the cap? Not just a schraeder valve but the hole thing. Mine are buggerd up a little on the inside lip and i would like to replace them with new ones. Thanks again.

Hey Jeff, here's my thread from last year about my air valves.

http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37672&highlight=fork+air+valve

Nice pics too.

[Bonz]

As long as you can get air in them, and the air stays in them, you are not unlike most of us on this forum that have some part or piece on their bike that may not look good, but it works!

[jjz28]

I didn't think they would be that high. Mine work fine, as far as keeping air in. Just where the hole is out of round its harder to get the air pump on them. Thanks for the help guys.

[BA80]

I figured giving the man the info he requested would be......Thanks!