trike

[Rasputin]

Hey Slow mo. I have been looking for a particular set up to pass along but can not find it. This page is similar to the one I was thinking of. http://www.mtcvoyager.com/voyager-standard.html
Seems to me that this option would allow you to resell any bike you mounted it on as well as provide you with what you need. I know it is more than 2500 bucks but if you are having to fabricate a trike then this should be quite easy. No noisy rear ends and such. I found that many sites offer quite a selection of helpful aids to disabled riders that may benefit you. Just happens that our safety man at work has one leg missing because of a motorcycle collision and he may find this useful as well, so my search may help him as well. Good luck with whatever way you decide to go with this.

[black01scoobyrs]

Could you use an S2000 rearend? Honda's spin "Backwards". I don't know about their rearends though.

[MaximPhil]

Hey Slow mo. I have been looking for a particular set up to pass along but can not find it. This page is similar to the one I was thinking of. http://www.mtcvoyager.com/voyager-standard.html
Seems to me that this option would allow you to resell any bike you mounted it on as well as provide you with what you need. I know it is more than 2500 bucks but if you are having to fabricate a trike then this should be quite easy. No noisy rear ends and such. I found that many sites offer quite a selection of helpful aids to disabled riders that may benefit you. Just happens that our safety man at work has one leg missing because of a motorcycle collision and he may find this useful as well, so my search may help him as well. Good luck with whatever way you decide to go with this.

Hi Mo, This is the thing I was trying to describe at lunch.
If you click on US Dealers we are right after Australia KW in Waterloo are listed. I know much too easy and expensive for your winter project
Phil

[rover]

trike

Could you use an S2000 rearend? Honda's spin "Backwards". I don't know about their rearends though.

I could not find any evidence that these engines spin backwards. This rear would be very rare and expensive. Did the S500, 600, 700 series also spin backwards, or any other Honda models? The 5 and 600s also had some sort of chain drive independant rears.

[subike]

this will sound crazy, and it totally is
but before you dismiss it think about it.
There will be heaps of things I will miss.
not impossible, just maybe impracticable
1st, get two cam billets regrind new cams to 1st reverse the cam operation
2nd set the new cams up so that 1-4 fire on the same stroke, 2-3 on the same stroke, effectively making a 4 cylinder thumper. Think about the construction and operation of the xs1100 mtr before you dismiss it.
Then reverse the windings of the starter to make it start in reverse
Then you have a motor that will develop lower bottom end torque
run the right way for all those diffs that are available to use,
Like a ST Suzuki van diff, which is a perfect size and weight.

lol, now you can pull this silly idea apart , by telling me all the things that are wrong with the idea.Please.
We are building a one off trike, that is different !

all things exsessive are for fun

[Guy_b_g]

Oil pump will need to be modified to run reversed., cam chain tensioner will be on the wrong side of the cam chain to work effectively. Kick starter will operate in wrong direction (if it has one). You may run into torsional vibration problems with the crank which isn't designed for 2 big power pulses rather than 4 smaller ones.

There may be other problems too, but that's just off the top of my head.

[Guy_b_g]

Also the starter clutch would have to be modified to work in the opposite direction.

[rover]

trike

Be MUCH simpler to use a goldwing, they turn in the proper direction.

[DiverRay]

You would need a revers gear, and as of now you have 5. For a forward gear, just have a jack shaft, or forward reverse gearbox, to reverse the rotation of the crank. about $100 worth of pillow blocks and bearings is all you would need. You can hide the works behind some tin, and a sliding gear would go from forward to reverse. You would also be able to "re-gear" easily, so you have plenty of low end, or a high top speed.

[crazy steve]

If the thing that's hanging you up is an automotive rear end, look no further; use an air-cooled VW beetle. You can swap the ring gear from side to side on these (reversing rotation) without harm as these are not a hypoid design; it's done all the time. You'll have to deal with the independent suspension, and will have to 'gut' the gearbox (although you may be able to leave the reverse gear in place and operable) unless you want more than 5 forward speeds...

The ring and pinion in these rarely go bad (it's usually the gears/synchos that go out), so finding a usable one shouldn't be hard. These use magnesium cases, so are fairly light. The downside is the low rear axle ratio (4:33?), but that will help with acceleration due to the greater weight of the trike.

Food for thought...

[Mr.Bill]

If the thing that's hanging you up is an automotive rear end, look no further; use an air-cooled VW beetle. You can swap the ring gear from side to side on these (reversing rotation) without harm as these are not a hypoid design; it's done all the time. You'll have to deal with the independent suspension, and will have to 'gut' the gearbox (although you may be able to leave the reverse gear in place and operable) unless you want more than 5 forward speeds...

The ring and pinion in these rarely go bad (it's usually the gears/synchos that go out), so finding a usable one shouldn't be hard. These use magnesium cases, so are fairly light. The downside is the low rear axle ratio (4:33?), but that will help with acceleration due to the greater weight of the trike.

Food for thought...

Great detective work there

With the xs1100 being a high revving beast, that 4:33 gear should work fine,
Make for some nice holeshots, and burnout competition fun

Well not that any of us would do that

[slow mo]

thanks to all

i don't know how far and how fast this will get done! but thanks all for your help ,,ride safe ,,slow mo!

[crazy steve]

With the xs1100 being a high revving beast, that 4:33 gear should work fine,
Make for some nice holeshots, and burnout competition fun

Yeah, that combo would be a definite candidate for a set of wheelie bars!

[Eveready1100]

Just a couple of ideas I think could maybe help you , or add to the confusion.
First one is concerning the VW rear end, you could just fit taller tyres to counter the low gearing.
My second idea for dealing with the wrong rotation on a conventional diff. With the extra length that normally gets added to a bike when triked , normally at least a foot or more, why not get a small car manual gearbox and slip it in between the uni joint and the diff?
Then you have an instant reverse gear installation with no messing about and should help you come up well within your budget.
Hope this helps. Ride safe Slo Mo

[Eveready1100]

Got a bit more info regarding the VW boxes. Apparently the later models (superbugs) had a 3.9 diff which is a bit taller
Here's a link to a VW forum with some listings

http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=113852