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  • #31
    Ok, this seems like a bit of an uncomfortable thread for a new person like myself to be posting in, but...what is the shim library?
    Joab

    "If nothing else, it will be interesting..."
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    1972 XS2 650
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    • #32
      Check here.. http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29346

      Sorry, just re-read your post. The shim library is a collection of valve bucket shims held by the group for swap when needed for engine tuning.
      1980 SG. (Sold - waiting on replacement)
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      • #33
        Hey Joab,

        As Brian stated, its a collection of different sized shims that fit the valve buckets in our bikes. As you may know, it is recommended that you periodically check the valve clearance. If it is out of spec, you change out shims to bring it back into spec.

        Shims can be fairly pricey or even tough to find locally, so there has been a "library" created. If you need a different size shim, you contact the current "librarian" or keeper of the shims. If you send them your shims and a postage paid envelope, you get the sizes you need in return. This is, of course, dependent upon the library containing the sizes you need.
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        80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


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        • #34
          If the library does not have it you can try eBay, local dealers, or the Ford sho motor also uses the same 29mm ships. There are some places online the sell them as well for a reasonable price.
          Nathan
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          • #35
            I found a local small bike shop that has them and sells me shims for $2 a piece, thats me keeping my old ones. So, they can be had. Also, IIRC, Suzuki has some models using the 29 MM shims as well.
            Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

            When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

            81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
            80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


            Previously owned
            93 GSX600F
            80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
            81 XS1100 Special
            81 CB750 C
            80 CB750 C
            78 XS750

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            • #36
              Originally posted by DGXSER View Post
              I found a local small bike shop that has them and sells me shims for $2 a piece, thats me keeping my old ones. So, they can be had. Also, IIRC, Suzuki has some models using the 29 MM shims as well.
              Wow the local dealer here was tryin to charge me 25 bucks a shim, and then I said F-that
              Nathan
              KD9ARL

              μολὼν λαβέ

              1978 XS1100E
              K&N Filter
              #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
              OEM Exhaust
              ATK Fork Brace
              LED Dash lights
              Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

              Green Monster Coils
              SS Brake Lines
              Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

              In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

              Theodore Roosevelt

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              • #37
                WOW, is that installed?
                Rob
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by 79XS11F View Post
                  WOW, is that installed?
                  Rob
                  Unfortunately not. That was shin TRADE alone. Yes everyone hates that place. There are a lot of hardley dealers here but not so many for everything else. Supply and demand, it suck for everyone but the dealer.
                  Nathan
                  KD9ARL

                  μολὼν λαβέ

                  1978 XS1100E
                  K&N Filter
                  #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                  OEM Exhaust
                  ATK Fork Brace
                  LED Dash lights
                  Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

                  Green Monster Coils
                  SS Brake Lines
                  Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

                  In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

                  Theodore Roosevelt

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                  • #39
                    If I may...

                    Suzuki has some models using the 29 MM shims as well.
                    The 29mm shims were mostly used for Yamaha, though there are many Kawasaki applications.
                    Suzuki used a shim size of 29.5mm. (Mostly for the GS series bikes)
                    These shims will not work. I recommend, that if you find a shop that will swap out shims for you, measure the outside dia. to ensure you've gotten the right size before you drive all the way home and try to install them.
                    "Damn it Jim, I'm a doctor, not a mechanic!' ('Bones' McCoy)

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                    • #40
                      Also a good source for shims at a reasonable price.....

                      http://www.crc2onlinecatalog.com/valve_shims.htm
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                      • #41
                        And now I know! Ugh...well, looks like I'll have to try out one of these options soon, I have a feeling my first winter back in the south (originally from Minnesota) will not be a riding one. I fix one issue, to discover two more! But that is what keeps life interesting, right?
                        Joab

                        "If nothing else, it will be interesting..."
                        ______________________________________________
                        1979 XS1100SF
                        1972 XS2 650
                        ______________________________________________
                        Ozark, Alabama

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                        • #42
                          I was able to get shims from a local BMW Motorcycle dealer. $4.00 each with no trade in of my old ones.
                          Four wheels move your body, two wheels move your soul.

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                          • #43
                            I think you might be able to get shims from your local Ford dealer as I believe that at least some of the SHO Taurus's shared the same shims in their valve train.
                            Cy

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                            • #44
                              As Prom stated, majority of Kawy's use 29mm shims. One of my local dealers here, who employees a mechanic whom I've known for years through the bike thing re-shimmed my XS Venturer valves and was very reasonable at $40. Heck, the valve cover gasket and cam-end plugs OEM cost me that. IIRC, it had three tight exhaust and one tight intake which on the 81 clearances are set at the higher end of the specs.
                              81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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                              • #45
                                If you are desperate

                                and as a last resort you can use a magnetic plate surface grinder to reduce a shim's thickness by the same amount that's needed to restore the clearance back into spec.
                                Fred Hill, S'toon
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