work is realy getting to me

[oldyam80sg]

The woman who usually will advise the trip to the ER was in a meeting.The precious meeting cannot be disturbed.If when i tell them tomorrow and things are ignored then i will tell them that i can no longer work in a place where my health is not a concern to them.Period.

[trbig]

If you are injured at work and are ambulatory, take yourself to the doc.. don't wait on someone in a meeting. Just tell the doc where you work and that the bill will be covered by worker's comp. If they fire you, you have a pretty good excuse for why you did it without permission.

BUT.. be sure that your workplace will fight any unemployment proceedings. If they are found in the wrong and the employee in the right.. their unemployment insurance rates raise.. by a LOT.


Tod

[madmax-im]

Theres a few things I would do ...but quitting isnt among them...Unemployment will penalize you to the tune of a month before you could get any benefits...also it will interupt your cash flow...its better if you are quitting to go to another job...I ahve been out of work 3 friggin years and just maybe you dont realize just how hard it is to find any work...my advice is to stay where you are until you get something else...I think you will find 6 months of benefits will run out on you way too fast...then you'll have no cash flow....Its not like the 70's and 80's where you could say"Take this job and shove it"

[trbig]

I also agree with Ben... unless you're near the point of going postal. And no.. that's not funny or meant as a joke.

Tod

[oldyam80sg]

Getting close to it!

[Bigfoot]

I worked for years as a department manager for a large company. I had 24 employees under me. Whenever there was an accident, I filled out an extensive incident report. The entire goal of that report was to identify what the employee did wrong to cause the accident. In other words, the companies position was that if the employee got hurt, it was because of something they did that was unsafe or against thier rules. This policy was in place to protect the company (at the expense of the employee).

I was officially reprimanded 3 times for not finding the employee at fault when they got hurt. Then again, I also didn't kiss @ss or play the office politics. I just did my job well. Guess that is why I was never going to make the next level.

[DGXSER]

AFAIK, in here in the USA, we have a workers compensation "insurance" plan. So, if your injury was not bad enough that you could still drive, you would typically leave work and go get medical attention. Wherever you choose to get your healthcare will fill out a workers compensation claim. Now, as stated before I think, your company can fight the claim. But it would be pretty tough to fight in this situation.

In the USA, the employer pays into workers compensation and I believe their premiums increase when they have claims made. So they try to limit this. So, making a workers compensation claim, and calling in OSHA can certainly kick in your "career dissipation light". In this economy, it owuld actually be very tough to fight a layoff claim IMHO.

As to pay, yep you get maybe 50% of your current pay rate in unemployment. And it is not easy fond a new job these days.

[madmax-im]

I would pace myself on that job...dont rush it any faster than you feel comfortable with...if they dont like it...theres not much they can do...if they fire you for bad conduct you'll be just as penalized as quitting...also note that unemployment will investigate your claim and they ALWAYS side with the employer...I know its not easy but my strategy would be to never let the employer know of my dissatisfaction until its time to get another job...once you've tipped your hand then they will be rather discriminatory against you...sounds like you've already voiced your displeasure so the cards are stacked against you. BTW I am sorry you have to deal with this chit...you've served your country with honor and your employer is anything but... Thankyou for your service!

[xs11jack]

No. 1

You shouldn't do anything drastic until you get in touch with the state agency that handles unemployment claims, so that you know every thing about getting fired or quitting or layoffs. No.2 get in touch with OSHA and if your state has a workers comp. policy, get in touch with them. also. In the situation the job market is in today, you must be prepared about your situation and not go off half cocked. You could end up with no job, no benefits, and bad reputation in the job market. Remember, at all times, BE PREPARED!!!

[Larrym]

David and Goliath

I've had my experiences with the "bad bosses" and the last one was a real doozy. No long story for you here but I will say that I was Fired for "insubordination" and being "hostile to my co-workers". That was their version of the events. My version was that it was a textbook case of my employer trying to "bully" me in the workplace and when I filed a formal complaint on this matter they responded like Joseph Stalin and "remove the man and you remove the problem." They couldn't have an assertive person setting a bad example for the rest of the "sheeple" on their payroll.

This situation was "resolved" right before filing a formal court case when it turned out that my former employer had no evidence to support their "Insubordination/hostility" claim. I didn't want my job back because I was already retired and did not need the income.

This website was crucial for me in determining what was really going on, what options I had, and what those options would lead to.

http://www.workplacebullying.org/targets/starthere.html

A bad boss is used to getting his/her way and doing what they want to do. It is the option of the employee to make them wish that they hadn't.

[jmnjrpa]

Right-o
If he didn't attend the injury he is in the wrong and susceptible to termination himself. Tod makes sense about the economy and job issue. I once talked to a $400 per hr lawyer about wrongful employment issues. He told me in Texas I did not stand a chance of winning because companies own the lawyers. Good luck

[Ivan]

First, you really don't want a government agency looking after you getting paid. I have tried dealing with unemployment, during our companies slowdown, where the state paid for two days of the week and the employer paid for three. Unemployment is well versed in why you shouldn't get your money. If you ave eluded all the reasons not to get paid, then they delay it until they feel like you need it, some times months, for no reason. Just find another job. It is much easier to land a job when you are still employed than trying to explain why you aren't working.

Second, you probably shouldn't have posted your grievances on a public site. I have worked for places that take a personal interest in "problem" employees and hire PIs to find evidence on why they should or shouldn't keep someone employed. It would not be out of the realm of possibilities for your employer or its agent to find this thread and cite it as evidence that you manipulated the system. Once again, if you say "I quit, since I found some place better.", they really can't do anything to you for that.

Lastly, I make it a personal rule to give big decisions due time for thought and review. I realize that you are fed up, but chances are that the tide will change in the future.

[oldyam80sg]

Ivan-please its not like I'm publicly naming my employer-I'm not and i seriously doubt that they would hire an investigator to check me out.Basically if they wanted to fire me they would.Lawyer i know says it would really be hard to prove it even though i have posted this on a public forum.

[DGXSER]

reality of life being what it is. Employment is a mutual agreement. As long as they feel you are contributing, and feel you are a having a positive effect on thier business, they will continue to employ you. As long as you feel they are treating you appropriately (which I know you have stated they are not) and effectively compensating you for your efforts, then you continue to work for them. When either of you feels the other is not holding up their end of the bargain, the mutual relationship ends.

Just like there is nothing they can do if you choose to leave, there is not really much you can do if they choose to no longer employ you. There are very rare occasions where legal action is warranted and successful, but those are VERY rare. This assumes you ar enot under any specific contract or that they committed any long term agreements to you. Again, if they want you there, they will keep you, if not they will terminate you in one form or another. Just like if you want to go, you leave.

[oldyam80sg]

Agreed.They know i have been looking because in July an employment agency i went to gave them a call for a background check.Because of privacy acts they can only say that I'm employed there nothing more.Years ago i had to take off a day to have my jeep fixed.My work actually called the dealership asking if i had been in there.The dealership told me they cant even tell an employer or any person for that matter that i even bought a vehicle there.My work also tells me that they can terminate an employee for looking at another job if they feel you wont give them sufficient notice when you leave.