Two things I hate...

[Montreux_Blue]

All makes have their goods and bads, some more than others. Some of it has to do with poor design, assembly, driver and maintenance.
Never understood the Harley Fords, everyone that drives them down here don't have a Harley and look like they just crossed the border.......

[BigDick]

Here is the single most glaring fault that the Ford Motor company ever made. I can't believe they ever did this. It makes me sick, and almost ready to give in to the argument that Ford sucks, but not quite:



DEAR GOD FORD! Did someone perform a ritual castration on you?

lol ya know, until I met you guys in person I thought all the Harley bashing was just in fun. Now I know the truth.

[Ivan]

lol ya know, until I met you guys in person I thought all the Harley bashing was just in fun. Now I know the truth.

You have much to learn young grasshopper

[tbishop11]

I used to love Fords until I got a job as a wrecker driver, I eventually had to swallow my pride and realize that they suck. They're really easy to hook up and ride great on the back of a tow truck, but that's about it. As for the cats other then eating then at Chinese restaurants I'm not a huge fan. I had hound dogs in high school and one of my friends "donated" bobcats to the Chinese restaurant in the nearby city. There wasn't bobcat or cat on that menu.

[DGXSER]

The Chrysler vans (dodge or plymouth) had the worst POS trannies ever, rebuild every 60-70K miles want ot or not! And yeah the 3.0 engine was crap too. The Sundance was a 2.2L built of course in Mexico. That one needed all new drive axles every 30K miles, a new head at 60K miles and at 70K the turbo went out taking that new head with it! Yeah Lee Iacoca can kiss my Iacoca!!

My sister and a friend had escorts that fit the acro Fix Or Repair Daily!! Yes those Mustang II things were trash as well. Now, my 70 F250 was a masterpiece and one tough frikkin truck! Not to mention I could sit on the wheel well and work on the heads. I now have a 2001 F150 crew cab that I have put all new ball joints on, not bad for over 100K on the clock. Although, I hired out the spark plug replacement, could not fathom how to get to those bloody back ones without a partial engine disassembly!

[Big Daddy Funk]

House Cats are creepy (not Wildcats though)

Two words, "Daddy's Girl" That young lady has Big Daddy Funk twisted around her little finger and we both know it. As for the cats, I bribe them with processed cheese which apparently is VERY bad for cats. As long as they don't die here I'm okay with that.
Cats are creepy, Would you happen to know why after several hours sleeping and grooming they suddenly take off at full speed to another room for no apparent reason? Late for a meeting or something? They can maul and terrorize a mouse for hours before killing it, once it's not fun anymore. Why do they have sex in the middle of the sidewalk, the least they could do is move onto the lawn. Yes, cats are creepy. Not quite the same category as clowns and furry spiders but creepy nontheless.

How did she get you to mind them in the first place? and how do you understand their commands? And if you DO mind them... does this mean you're whipped?

lol

[b.walker5]

best thing ever to come out of a ford factory. good friend of mine has a stumpy tailed heeler who positively loves cats. at last count she had spread 27 of the misbegotten creatures all over the countryside in very small pieces. good dog.

We had a Blue heeler for years, and it was nuts. It was like living with an epilectic blowfly, but we didnt have a cat, nor did the neighbours for two blocks either When he died the wife got a cat and my place in the house has been on shakey ground ever since. As much as I hate Fords I'd love to have the "Ka" that did that. Ironically, I actually have a ford, a '52 twin spinner and I justify it by the fact that I stuck a Chev motor in it to improve it.

[Wildkat]

Would you happen to know why after several hours sleeping and grooming they suddenly take off at full speed to another room for no apparent reason?

To make up for all of the exercise they aren't getting while laying on the floor sleeping and grooming? I figured it was for sheer entertainment value... we had one that would do this... a long, wood floor hall and the cat would take off and slide down the hallway letting out a catlike roar along the way... Was hillarious sitting there and all of a sudden have this streak of white slide by the doorway...

Why do they have sex in the middle of the sidewalk

Because they can do it without getting arrested for indecent exposure...

Not quite the same category as clowns and furry spiders but creepy nontheless.

I do NOT like clowns... creepy creepy creepy
~shudder~

[Fix]

I'll take any Ford over that ****ty ass 2.7l mitsuckbishi dodge intrepid I had. Worst frikkin engine ever.

[DiverRay]

Just to stir things up a bit, I will say that I've had or worked on Fords, GM, and Chrysler products that were good designs. I've ALSO worked on or junked P.O.S. offerings from all three!
I grew up with GM cars, 55 Chevy wagon, 65 Bel Air 4 door, 63 Bel Air 4 door HT, and a 52 International 1/2 ton long bed pick-up that my dad and I put a 445 Wildcat running gear in! Got to drive that one at 16 years old in high school! 140 MPH indicated on a SW 160 speedo is AWESOME at 16 years old!

[crazy steve]

Ya know, different people have different luck with different cars. I've usually owned Fords and have had very good luck with nearly all that I've owned. My SO's '00 Focus get better mileage than my XS! GM products? After having engine failures in all except for one, I pretty much quit looking at them. Chrysler used to make nearly bulletproof running gear (they were the only cars I ever saw that you could wear out the body first!), but they went to hell after they went all FWD, and the later cars aren't much improvement.

Current ride? Just to show that I'm a unbiased guy and/or a glutton for punishment, I'm driving a '83 Jaguar XJS powered by a '95 Corvette LT1....

And you Harley-bashers; how many HD products have YOU actually owned? Or is it simple envy? My '93 Sporty (85 RWHP, 520 lbs wet) is the most reliable, low maintenance bike I've ever owned AND most parts are cheap and all are plentiful. No, it's not an XS11. The XS does some things far better than the Sporty, but for what it is, the Sportster a great bike. I know for a fact I could ditch my XS in the twisties without much effort, but on the superslab, the XS is the choice even with the crummy mileage. Personally, I ignore the Harley 'lifestyle' marketing hype and just enjoy the bike. Yes, I do own some HD t-shirts, but every one has been a gift from a well-meaning friend that doesn't understand.

But some people aren't happy unless they 'prove' how smart they are by tearing down everybody else's choices....

Anybody on two wheels is my brother until proven otherwise.

'78E original owner

[Ivan]

And you Harley-bashers; how many HD products have YOU actually owned? Or is it simple envy? My '93 Sporty (85 RWHP, 520 lbs wet) is the most reliable, low maintenance bike I've ever owned AND most parts are cheap and all are plentiful. No, it's not an XS11. The XS does some things far better than the Sporty, but for what it is, the Sportster a great bike. I know for a fact I could ditch my XS in the twisties without much effort, but on the superslab, the XS is the choice even with the crummy mileage. Personally, I ignore the Harley 'lifestyle' marketing hype and just enjoy the bike. Yes, I do own some HD t-shirts, but every one has been a gift from a well-meaning friend that doesn't understand.

so, if the lifestyle and marketing dont mean anything to you, why have a harley and not a knock off that looks nearly identical, handles the same and rides as well for a fraction of the price?

How many Harleys hsve I owned? None. Never will. Two reasons. First is common sense. After working with my dad rebiildibg several radial engines, it is readily appearant the design was about cooling,not performance or reliability. Radialengines exposed each cylinder to cool air for efficient cooling. Turning one sideways to the airflow would defeat this purpose. A harley engine is a two cylonder radial engine turned sodeways to the aorflow. Second reason is the "everybody has one" factor. If I wanted to look like everyone else, I would get frosted hair and save myself several grand.

Triumph wanted to be just like everyone else, so they put a 270crank in their twin to get "the sound". 20 extra pounds later their crank was heavy enough the engine would idle with oit skaking its self apart.

Ultimately, Harley Davidson marketing has so constricted the american cyclist's view point that any one wanting a new bike has the choice of a harley clone, a gold wing, a sport bike,b or an off road dial sport type. Had Harley not marketed their poor excuse for an engine so well, I submit that we woild be several years advanced beyond where we are today with motorcycle design. Unfortunately, we cyclists as a whole are like thoughtless lemmings that buy what ever the marketing gods say is "cool"

That is why I dislike Harleys.

[cywelchjr]

I have owned, driven and liked cars from all three major manufacturers, I have also had ones from all 3 I hated. Even some of the comercial dogs were good cars if you knew how to fix the issues (I've had 4 Chevy Vega's, and loved all of them, and one of them I really wish I still had). I've only owned three bikes in my life, and I still have two of them. I'm looking for a copy of the first, just because. One honda, two yamaha's . As far as the HD thing, or for that matter other modern bikes, I have yet to find one that I was comfortable with the riding position on. I am so disappointed with the lack of "standard" motorcycles, I don't care that much for cruisers (although generally their better than the others) and really dislike the crotch rockets. I could probably live with a goldwing, but my XS11 is plenty big for me thanks, I just can't see myself on a bike with reverse . Once I'm completely done with this XS11, I may look for another to fix up and hook a sidecar up to (as apparently that's the only way SWMBO is going riding with me).

BTW, I was just re-reading a science fiction book that I bought a couple of years ago, and was wondering of "she who must be obeyed" came from that book, as unless I'm mistaken that was the first place I saw that.

[cueball]

Blue dogs n Mud pumps

Eh Bro, get another blue dog, let the cat and wife take their own chances. Obviously the usa boys don't understand eh. As for those milwaulkee things, mud pumps don't require much maintenance, still primitive, just like the mentality of the MAJORITY of those who own them. Must admit I actually talk to several, they where actually once smart enough to own Jap bikes. Then fell into the "all my friends have one" trap. Pitiful

[Montreux_Blue]

I don't hate Harleys but the posers that ride on them. They snub you when you wave because their trailer queen, sorry Russ, has more chrome, less miles and costs more. I have more respect for the guy on an old beat up bike, like Ivan's with the cherry bomb and last minute whitewall, than the Harley posers because they actually ride their bike. And because it takes work to keep an old bike running. I do know a couple guys that ride Harleys that I talk to a lot about bikes, they actually ride them in the cold, rain and take trips on them, and have owned many other bikes over the years like BSAs, Triumphs, XS650, etc......., they just like to ride slower now. Plus I've owned a Harley, kinda, it was a Buell Lightning. I would have to say it is virtually equal to the XS acceleration wise but topped out about 150 mph. It didn't turn me into a snob!