Ghosts, Goblins and Global Warming

[Jerry]

Heck, the EPA says - on their web site - that human activity probably has an impact on this warming cycle.

As through much of its history, the Earth's climate is changing. Right now it is getting warmer, likely1 mostly as a result of human activities (IPCC, 2001; NRC, 2001). However, it cannot be ruled out that some significant part of the warming is due to natural variability (NRC, 2001). The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s (NOAA) State of the Climate Report and the National Aeronautics and Space Administration’s (NASA) Surface Temperature Analysis indicate the average temperature of the Earth’s surface has increased by about 1.2 to 1.4ºF since 1900. Other aspects of the climate are also changing, such as precipitation patterns, snow and ice cover, and sea level.

Read the page here:
http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/science/index.html
The EPA has quite a few pages dealing with the science of global warming, including past cyles. http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/sci...stcc.html#last

This page contains information about the causes of climate change throughout the Earth's history, the rates at which the climate has changed, as well as information about climate change during the last 2,000 years.

Worth a read reagrdless of which side of the argument you are on.

Maximan...the only way a governement can get things done is to scare people. Look at all the biggest governement activities: building the Interstate system was for national defense, the 'space race' was to keep up with Russian technology, Iraq war was sold in part on Rice's "mushroom cloud" comment. Easier to motivate through fear than logic. While I don't agree with this approach, history has proven that fear can be effective in getting things done, so I am not surprised at it being employed in this cause. Should it be otherwise? Yes. But there it is.

[xschop]

sharia

hey Tom , you hit that one on the head.....e few dictating to the masses......kind of like the fluoride fiasco ( it's good for your teeth)

[MAXIMAN]

Dan

I try to tell people just how desolate it is out there. They can not comprehend until they experience it personally. Armpit is a "mis-underestimation" (Bushism). But then he was from there too.

At least the people there are solid and hospitable. They're just a little wack over football.

[Special Ed]

UFO's and global warming

I came upon this thread late. I feel honored being mentioned in the same breath as Prometheus! Maximan, you know we are on the same page regarding "climate change." We discussed it at dinner at a Tahoe rally a year or two ago. Tommystenson pretty well summed up my position on the subject. But please don't put those who believe in the possibility of "extraterrestrials" in the same category as the "True Believers" in human caused climate change.

One of the most under reported stories of late, is that of a very highly placed Airforce officer who was involved with the Roswell Incident in 1947 who died recently. He had a signed affidavit revealed at his death stating that he witnessed the crash scene of the UFO and saw unusual small bodies with large heads, (no, wiseguys, they weren't green,) and an unusual craft. He said the weather balloon story was a cover.

Brazil and Peru are both hotbeds of UFO activity. Why are we not informed of this in our mainstream press? Whether "they" are from the future, another dimension, or another planet, there is something going on, and someone is keeping us in the dark. "They" may very well have tried to make contact, but "we the people" haven't been informed. But this is worth a whole separate thread, no?

[prometheus578]

"Oh, we are just so special...!"

E. Liberty gets on his boat and stumbles across some unexplored south seas island. Primative humans... kicking logs over to eat grubs... busting open clam shells between two rocks, etc.
"What to do... what to do?", he says to himself as no one there would understand him anyway.
Would he set up a satellite dish and let them watch Dr Phil and Leno? Would he share the technology of fire, knowing that they then might ignorantly set their whole island on fire?
No, like his famous namesake, he would just sit offshore, observe and take notes... using his telescope when the topless babes go to the beach to bathe.
Sorry, not a good example... species too similar.
Ok... I go into the kitchen to get more soda. The ants have found my frozen pizza crusts on the counter. Do I teach them how to turn on the oven? Do I give them the technology to build a microwave to reheat the pizza?
No. I stand there for a few minutes and observe.
Do I communicate with them? No, why should I? What have they to talk about?
I take a few and put them in my "Uncle Andy's Ant Farm" for further study. (My version of alien abduction)
Do I wish to help them advance their culture?
No... I reach for the RAID and destroy them and their whole piss-ant civilization.

The "E. Liberty" species of aliens have already found our planet We are dull, boring and quite infantile in our pursuits.
The "Prometheus" species is currently busy destroying other worlds but eventually will stop in for a quick visit. Won't that be fun!

The universe... Small minds can't comprehend unlimited possabilities

There's more evidence for UFO's than there is for Global Warming.

[MAXIMAN]

Re: UFO's and global warming

Originally posted by E.Liberty
I came upon this thread late. I feel honored being mentioned in the same breath as Prometheus! Maximan, you know we are on the same page regarding "climate change." We discussed it at dinner at a Tahoe rally a year or two ago. Tommystenson pretty well summed up my position on the subject. But please don't put those who believe in the possibility of "extraterrestrials" in the same category as the "True Believers" in human caused climate change.

One of the most under reported stories of late, is that of a very highly placed Airforce officer who was involved with the Roswell Incident in 1947 who died recently. He had a signed affidavit revealed at his death stating that he witnessed the crash scene of the UFO and saw unusual small bodies with large heads, (no, wiseguys, they weren't green,) and an unusual craft. He said the weather balloon story was a cover.

Brazil and Peru are both hotbeds of UFO activity. Why are we not informed of this in our mainstream press? Whether "they" are from the future, another dimension, or another planet, there is something going on, and someone is keeping us in the dark. "They" may very well have tried to make contact, but "we the people" haven't been informed. But this is worth a whole separate thread, no?

HEY QUIT HIJACKING THE THREAD!!!

This thread is dealing with flakes that believe in man Made Global Warming...Not flakes that believe in UFOS

Just joking Ed! See ya in September.

[prometheus578]

"I suppose I'm the guy with the hat?"

Ok... no more 3:00am posts from me. (I tend to stray off topic)

[Special Ed]

OK, I'll start my own thread! By the by Maximan, I sent you a PM a week or so ago on a related subject. Did it get to you, or do you just not check your PM's?
Or maybe you did and were just to busy with this thread to reply!
E.Liberty

[MAXIMAN]

Ed...I always check my PMs. Are you sure you sent it? Better yet....What were you smoking the night you sent it?

[desert1]

aliens

Heres a little known fact or is it?
Title 14, Section 1211 of the code of federal regulations, implemented on July 16, 1969, make it illegal for U.S. citizens to have any contact with extraterrestrials or their vehicles........but then again that was the 60s
Bruce

[MAXIMAN]

Hmmm that's kinda like the law they passed in Washington state making it illegal to shoot a creature that doesn't exist. Big Foot....ROFLMA.

Uh Oh...I'm sure I'll get blasted now!

[desert1]

Polar shift

Whats with a polar shift? Does it happen real fast like? Do we fly of the earth if were not hangin on? Kinda like a dog shakin off water.....maybe the aliens will take us away before it hits....

[fredintoon]

OK, I'll bite

Hmmm that's kinda like the law they passed in Washington state making it illegal to shoot a creature that doesn't exist. Big Foot....ROFLMA.

Hi Maximan,
you mean "Harry and the Hendersons" WASN'T a documentary?
I would suppose that the law wasn't written to protect the Bigfoot, (whether they exist or not) but to deter red-blooded American he-men from chugging back fifths of Jack Daniels and then prowling the north woods waving .458 Winchester Magnum rifles and blasting at anything or anyone that they thought was a Bigfoot.

[MAXIMAN]

Geologically speaking it is almost instantaneous. But Geologically speaking the time scale the proponents of man made global warming are meaningless. They say we are the hottest we've been in 650,000 years.

The earth is 4.5 billion years old. Recognizable sediment is 541 million years old. Saying the earth is hotter than it's been in the past 650,000 years is like some man saying "This is the hottest I've ever been in the past 5 days!!!"...and the man is 98 years old...and he's saying this in the midst of a snow storm...seriously.

[MAXIMAN]

Re: OK, I'll bite

Originally posted by fredintoon
Hmmm that's kinda like the law they passed in Washington state making it illegal to shoot a creature that doesn't exist. Big Foot....ROFLMA.

Hi Maximan,
you mean "Harry and the Hendersons" WASN'T a documentary?
I would suppose that the law wasn't written to protect the Bigfoot, (whether they exist or not) but to deter red-blooded American he-men from chugging back fifths of Jack Daniels and then prowling the north woods waving .458 Winchester Magnum rifles and blasting at anything or anyone that they thought was a Bigfoot.

Hmmm so you're saying....They pass a law to keep people from shooting each other. Of course there are already laws that do that...but nevermind the formalities...they MUST PASS MORE LAWS...because laws will solve all the problems of the world.

Then the law they pass never made mention of man (what they intended to protect) instead it made only mention of a mythical beast. Of course congress thinks their constituents are mythical.

Sounds just like Congress.