New member:TurboXS, super modded

[mason79]

Originally posted by malber
Welcome fellow new member. This is surely a very cool bike. But when the only stock item is the motor, at what point is it no longer an XS1100?

once an xs eleven....

[xschop]

wow

a new taller gear ratio! 2.77/1 for the f/d. What is your hiway gas mileage?....chop

[Mathh]

i went thru your website a little, and in 92 you enlarged your gas tank, awesome!
i like the obessesion you'ver had since day one, definately a first rate engineer and designer!

Thanks!

Originally posted by xschop
a new taller gear ratio! 2.77/1 for the f/d. What is your hiway gas mileage?....chop

you don't want to know. why do you think I have a 36 liter tank?
But no kidding. I do not have any mileage numbers yet on this final drive. With the stock one it varied between 1 liter on 5 kilometers and 1 liter on 17 kilometers, depending on the right hand

[Mathh]

Originally posted by malber
Welcome fellow new member. This is surely a very cool bike. But when the only stock item is the motor, at what point is it no longer an XS1100?

I give up, please tell me

[Just In Case]

For our non-metric readers...

Originally posted by Mathh


With the stock one it varied between 1 liter on 5 kilometers and 1 liter on 17 kilometers, depending on the right hand

17km/litre is 40mpg (US gallon) or 48mpg (rest of the world gallon )
5km/litre is 12mpg or 14mpg


Mathh, that's one real nice bike there, looks good and performs good!

But max torque is at 1900 rpm? That's amazing and would make it really easy to just cruise.... but I thinks it'll be hard to "just" cruise

How flat is the torque curve?

Cheers
Dave

[malber]

Originally posted by Mathh


I give up, please tell me

I suppose it depends on how much of a purist one is.

[EZMoney]

I agree with Malber
If I put a Chev motor in a Ford does it make it a Chev??
It is a very nice bike but the whole mistique around an 1100 is that it is easily identified as an 1100
EZ

[mason79]

theres enough stock ones out there, no one would be pushing the envelope like he is, glad he is in the club

[81xsproject]

I agree, I have never been able to leave well enough alone. Besides, the same could be said for changing anything on the XS. My super-bike bars arn't stock, neither is my fuse box, or air filters, or chrome handle bar clamp, or mirrors, or right side throttle and controls (off an 01 GSXR), nor are my head light mounts, and on and on. That is just it, having an XS is to BE XSive!

Mathh, as an XSive, sir you ARE XSive!

[jimboreeno]

Owner of the XS1100 Turbo (purchased new in 1982)

It counts!

[malber]

I don't mean any disrespect to Mathh. This is a fine machine and it's obvious his hard work and investment have payed off. And he's been XSive for many years. I just wish that Google's translator worked on that site (or I understood German) so I could read the story.

It's more of a philosophical question. Does the spirit of the mechanical beast stay with it regardless of how modified it is? Does it have to have at least the frame and engine? Do you prefer a classic machine with all stock parts? One could ask, "Why do all these modifications? Why not just buy a <insert sport bike>?" But to ask the question means the answer would not be understood.

[Wildkat]

Kind of all in the eye of the beholder isn't it?

I would think that to the purist mentioned earlier, that any modification would negate XS status. Others, being a bit more liberal, would consider it an XS of sorts until everything XSive was removed.
It still has the XS engine and part of the frame (as I recall)...

On a lesser scale, John and I were discussing this the other day... Foster Child is an 81 Special... with a 78 engine with 80 carbs... so when does it stop being an 81?

No matter what you call it... Mathh has one heck of a machine...

[John]

Originally posted by malber
It's more of a philosophical question. Does the spirit of the mechanical beast stay with it regardless of how modified it is? Does it have to have at least the frame and engine?

That's a question I had last year. I wrecked and had to replace the frame on my bike, an 80SG. I bought a frame from a salvage yard, sandblasted it, and painted it. I reassembled the bike after that, and I asked here what is the soul of a bike, the engine or the frame? Over the years I have replaced almost everything on that bike.
Check it out...all of the switches, mirrors, levers, handelbars and grips have been replaced. The fuel tank has been replaced. The seat and speedo are from a 79SF. I have a 79 XS650SF tail light on it. The carbs are from a 78E. The headlight bucket, fork ears and final drive are from a XS850SG. The front fender and both wheels are from an XJ11. Shocks are from a Midnight Special. The pipes are aftermarket. About the only thing original on it is the brake system, swingarm and engine, and that has been modified also. Is it the same bike that I bought 15 years ago? Or is it just my engine in a different bike?

[HobbyMan]

For me, I consider the frame and the engine the bike. Everything else is secondary. I don't know what to call it if the engine/ frame is different, but does it really matter? By gov't standards, the frame has the serial number and the title. Thats all I know. I can't help but think of the movie Christine. All of the parts are from junk cars, but she is still alive. My bike seems to be Christine's older/lazy sister. When she runs, she runs great. As soon as I fix something, something else breaks. Maby it is just old age. Eventually everything will be replaced and I won't have problems(hopefully). One more thought, maby those who have a strict interpretation of what an XS is could think of Mathh's bike as another unreleased model of XS. Like XS1100ZZ . That looks cool

[Special Ed]

awsome!

Dayum... Ain't that purty! (Sorry Prom!)
Well done and welcome!
Are you getting this DiverRay!
E.Liberty