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  • #61
    The 16" to 17" is not a bolt-in swap. There are differences in the rear brake torque bracket plus a few other issues. Most of the details were hashed out in this thread:

    http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread...ght=wheel+swap

    Is doable with a few extra parts from the 17" doner bike and a few washers to use as spacers.
    Jerry Fields
    '82 XJ 'Sojourn'
    '06 Concours
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    • #62
      Well, with the final drive mod completed, I am getting about 41 to 42 MPG, up from a regular 34. Oddly enough switching to the earlier cams did not improve my mileage, but that was not really the goal. I should switch back to the XJ cams to look for any variance. I did have other issues (no lubrication of the splines - thanks mr. mechanic!) so that might have influenced my rather large increase in mileage.
      1984 XJ1100 - 79 cams, XS850 FD, XS triple tree/euro cafe bars, hydraulic clutch, bar end mirrors, yamaha R1 rear mono-shock
      1972 CL350 - clubmans, Mike's XS coils/condenser, '98 Yamaha R1 rearsets (If I can find some at a decent price)

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      • #63
        Fred

        I he has a standard then he alread has a 17". But the wheel swap is no quite plug in play. There are spacers and brackets that have to be changed. I've not done it but several have and will confirm this.

        The wheel swap is a nice loss in rev of (like you said) 6%. But the FD mod doubles that reduction.

        Ray is really dropping his revs. He did a FD mod on his 78E. SO he has the taller gearing AND taller tire. Last I spoke to him he loves it.

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        • #64
          And I probably will STILL love it, once I can ride it again. The company would rather I rent a car than ship my bike to France! I've been here for almost three weeks now, and boy to I need to ride.
          I'll be back on daily ride Friday, and I hope to see MRO and one or two others try to join E.Liberty and I in Monterey Saturday evening!
          Ray Matteis
          KE6NHG
          XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
          XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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          • #65
            on two wheels

            Cheer up Ray,
            betcha anywhere you go in France you can find a place that will rent you a Mobylette?
            Fred Hill, S'toon
            XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
            "The Flying Pumpkin"

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            • #66
              Guzzlestopper

              Thanks to you for all your help.
              The 750 rear end sure looks attractive.

              Now I only have trouble understanding Maximan's sign off quote regarding Virgins into Volcano's.
              I do not see how a sense of stewardship towards the planet is similar to babarian and ignorant behaviour of our distant ancesters...
              But I guess that is off topic...somewhat.
              Except: not wasting gas is also not polluting more than nessesary...
              Enlighten me there Maximan.
              Thanks again.
              80 1100SG with 79 engine
              79 1100F being restored
              78 xs650 runabout (mpg, eh?)
              Irreverence is the champion of liberty and its only sure defense

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              • #67
                Jurgen

                WRONG THREAD!

                But suffice to say...I've been an earth scientist for a quarter century. I've been a student of said science for about 30 years.

                The idea that man is significantly affecting global climate is not only questionable it's patently absurd. If man is significantly affecting the climate today then what warmed the planet 25,000 years ago at the end of the great ice age and push the permanent ice from Texas back into Canada? Was it cro-magnon drivng around in SUVs?

                If man is causing this little blip on the warming radar today of 1 degree...the what caused teh radical warming of 10 degrees 45 million years ago during the mid tertiary period that gave rise to a sub-tropical forest at the north pole ripe with alligators? If you didn't know champosaurus is NOT a warm water critter. He was found in the fossil forest of Axel Heiberg Island. Google it.

                And what has caused the earth to cycle warm and cold for at least 541 million years. That's right Jurgen 541 MILLION.

                When people talk about the insane notion that the earth is hotter than it;s been in 600,000 years I say SO WHAT? that is a mere one thousandth of sedimentary history. These idiots are looking at global climatic cycles through a microscope!!! Instead they should be looking at it through a telescope!

                But this is WAY OT.

                If you would like to be educated further please PM me. I would gladly take a little extra time to show you the other side of the story. The side that most scientists that I practice subscribe to. Not this Al Gore hyped hysteria that totally ignores the well established geologic facts of earth's history. A history that is indelibly recorded in the rock.

                So for man to run around screaming "Oh my god!!! The sky is falling...if we only quit LIVING then the earth will cool down!!!"...this is about as logical and reasonable as screaming" The volcanoe gods are angry...throw another virgin in the caldera!"

                This line of reason...if that is what you could call it...is steeped in hysteria and totally defies scientific reason and irrefutable facts fo earth's history.

                Anyway...PM me...yeah I'd gladly show you a plethora of fact that you won't get from eye candy publications like NG!
                Last edited by MAXIMAN; 07-03-2007, 09:45 PM.

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                • #68
                  earth shifting of it's magnetic field?, sun flares? or maybe the moon pulling away from earth at about and inch per year, negating it's stabilizing effect and wobbling the earth, exposing polar caps to more sun radiation? not now but eminant.

                  buy hey,
                  i could do with better air qualty, now that's a good by- product of something that should be a hysterical atempt to downsize carbon dioxide footprints.
                  "a good man knows his limitations" dirty harry
                  History
                  85 Yamaha FJ 1100
                  79 yamaha xs1100f
                  03 honda cbr 600 f4
                  91 yamaha fzr 600
                  84 yamaha fj 1100
                  82 yamaha seca 750
                  87 yamaha fazer
                  86 yamaha maxim x
                  82 yamaha vision
                  78 yamaha rd 400

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                  • #69
                    In order to keep this thread on topic let's agree now to send all extraneous global cycling debate to the original thread.

                    Ghosts, gremlins and Global Warming

                    Now let's try to keep this one on course.

                    Jurg - If you are convinced that the XSive burning of hydrocarbons is the sole cause of planetary warming then I highly recommend this 750 FD mod.

                    If all XSives subscribed to this mod we might be able to slow the warming by .00002367896 degrees C within a thousand years from the fuel savings alone! But better yet is the $$$ savings on my next road trip to the Golden State!

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                    • #70
                      Back on topic. Now that I've logged 1200 miles on it in the last two weeks I'm averaging 37MPG naked. And I'm skip shifting 2nd as it's going bad. And thats running 75-80 on the freeway. Also has been jetted with the Supertrapp 4into1
                      I hate signatures. Too many cars and Bikes to list here.

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                      • #71
                        If ya slow down to 70 I bet you'd see 40+.

                        of course if you slow down to 70 on most interstates you'd get run over.

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                        • #72
                          I think I only see 25 in town. Not yet sure what it is this year out on the highway.
                          1985 Yamaha VMX12n "Max X" - Stock
                          1982 Honda XL500r "Big Red" - Stump Puller. Unknown mileage.
                          1974-78 Honda XL350 hybrid - The thumper that revs. Unknown miles.
                          1974 Suzuki TC/TS125 hybrid. Trials with trail gear. Invaluable. Unknown miles.
                          1971 Honda CL350. For Dad. Newtronic Electronic Ign. Reliable. Unknown miles.

                          Formerly:
                          1982 XS650
                          1980 XS1100g
                          1979 XS1100sf
                          1978 XS1100e donor

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by MAXIMAN
                            If ya slow down to 70 I bet you'd see 40+.

                            of course if you slow down to 70 on most interstates you'd get run over.
                            I-75 in Michigan I'll pass at 70 I'd be roadkill. I do have the 1 dollar xs750 Final drive to put in it. Maybe over the weekend.
                            I hate signatures. Too many cars and Bikes to list here.

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                            • #74
                              Now that I have read the 750 mod in detail, it really is a non-brainer. I'll find one of those hubs and get it on there asap.

                              Maximan, while I could not disagree more with you on your stance toward the ecosystem, I do really appreciate your help with my milage question.

                              I was born in industrialized Germany, amongst steel mills, coal mines and chemical factories in the 60's before pollution was taken seriously, and I saw people literally choking in the streets. I will not be part off that problem if I can help it.
                              Now I am living here :
                              http://www.cedar-strip.com
                              You can see why I am keen to preserve my present surroundings. That all, cheers, Jürgen
                              80 1100SG with 79 engine
                              79 1100F being restored
                              78 xs650 runabout (mpg, eh?)
                              Irreverence is the champion of liberty and its only sure defense

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                              • #75
                                Well I like you inspite of it all Jurg!

                                You maybe mistaken but still a good guy. If you need any help with the mod let me know. I may have another bronze bushing around here somewhere.

                                BTW...I am as concerned about the ecosystem as anyone. This is indigenous to being an earth scientist. However as a scientist I refuse to worship any "THING" inclusing the earth. I see far to many people get all emotional about issues that need only calm logical thought. Not hysteria.

                                Call on me if you need help.

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