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    to add a ick starter do I need both of the gear shafts shown or just the circled one?

    '81 XS1100 SH

    Melted to the ground during The Valley Fire

    Sep. 12th 2015

    RIP

  • #2
    I've read on here that adding the kickstart components it a PITA.
    My E alrady has the stub sticking out. I was going to add one from a 750 but it hits on the sidecover.
    A kickstarter (for these bikes) is only useful if the starter motor goes bad. If the battery dies the kickstarter won't start it (system need 10 volts or something like that).
    That said, it is still cool to kick-start the bike when others are watching.
    Had a HD guy putting my bike down. I replied with "Real bikes are kick-started" and kicked my 400 Honda and rode off. His "Ol Lady" was laughing at him.
    Pat Kelly
    <p-lkelly@sbcglobal.net>

    1978 XS1100E (The Force)
    1980 XS1100LG (The Dark Side)
    2007 Dodge Ram 2500 quad-cab long-bed (Wifes ride)
    1999 Suburban (The Ship)
    1994 Dodge Spirit (Son #1)
    1968 F100 (Valentine)

    "No one is totally useless. They can always be used as a bad example"

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    • #3
      I have a little rubber boot sticking out from my 79. Does that mean I can just find a lever, attach it, and have a kick starter?
      1979 XS1100 Special (Chrome Queen)

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      • #4
        Yeah, the 79 had a kick starter. The lever is bolted to the frame, behind the engine. Is yours still there? Like it was mentioned before, the kick start lever from an XS750 will fit the splines, but when it is folded in it may hit the side cover.

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        • #5
          On my 78, the slines are positioned differently than the kickstart lever for the 750. I posted an illistration a few months ago, and the response I got was to just grind down the side where the bolt threads through. It worked easy enough, and now I can kickstart my 1100. Here's the link if anyone is interested...

          Kick Start Thread

          PS - My kickstart doesn't really cause any problems for my side cover.
          ~ Street Rat ~

          Mitch
          '78 XS1100 "My Mistress"

          Knowledge is Experience. Everything else is just Information

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          • #6
            Not to be pushy, but having read all of this thread and the one Street Rat pointed out, no one has actually anwered my question... I know someone knows, because in the previously refered to thread, Laxlad asked,

            Still considering adding kickstart to my 80special. Some parts are on ebay now.

            http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...me=STRK:MEWA:IT

            Is this and the lever all that is required and what is involved with installing it?
            Good Idea or Bad idea for emergencies? Yhanks
            Randy answered,

            laxdad, That's the whole mechanism.
            In addition to the lever, you'll also need the seal that fits into the clutch cover ( to replace the plug ).
            The problem is that that link is no good now as ebay only hangs on to the listing pages for 90 days, or something.

            I already have the part I circled, do I need the other, or is it already in there?
            '81 XS1100 SH

            Melted to the ground during The Valley Fire

            Sep. 12th 2015

            RIP

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            • #7
              pretty please...
              '81 XS1100 SH

              Melted to the ground during The Valley Fire

              Sep. 12th 2015

              RIP

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              • #8
                ...with sugar on top!!

                Hey Jesse,

                Okay, after a little research, I've got some good news, and some bad news.

                The good news is that the parts you already have acquired that are circled in your diagram are the only parts you need to get! The other parts are part of the regular starter system, they are the shaft and gears that the starter motor drive, the kick starter drive just engages on the OTHER side of the shaft/gear.

                The bad news is that you are probably going to have to split the cases to install it.....but I'm not positive, but pretty sure though! Others that have a kick starter and have split their cases to perform work can verify this for you!
                T.C.

                Go to the Yamaha parts fiche web site and look up the 80G Starter assembly for a look for yourself!
                T. C. Gresham
                81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
                79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
                History shows again and again,
                How nature points out the folly of men!

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                • #9
                  Thank you TC. You're right that IS bad news
                  '81 XS1100 SH

                  Melted to the ground during The Valley Fire

                  Sep. 12th 2015

                  RIP

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                  • #10
                    .. that would be a big fat YES to splitting the cases to install those parts.. i have done it on a drag bike i assembled a few years ago, A 1980 1100 special ..while i was in there i removed the starter clutches and gears and the electric starter. along with a smaller battery, that shaved a lot of weight off the bike.. i pluged the starter hole with an expandable rubber freeze plug i purchased from the auto parts store. i also sat around for two days striping the wireing harness of all the wires that didnt have anything to do with keeping the head light, tail light and motor running.. i got a little XSive with that project

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