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    Can anyone tell me what the approximate cranking rpm should be of an XS11 with a healthy battery?

    Thx,

    Dan
    Home of ENIAC

    Kinda like a MANIAC with 2 letters difference & a computer on board

  • #2
    i aint got a clue but when i was working on my bros bike the start didnt spin that fast so i would say 500 rpm or less i think it has alot of other things to deal with when starting a bike then just the cranking rpm like fuel spark and compression too
    79 yamaha xs1100f standard
    best 1/4 mile 13.282@99.40

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    • #3
      Hook your scope up to the pickup coil, crank it, and get the milliseconds from leading edge to leading edge. That gives you secs/rev. Divide 1/(sec/rev) = revs/sec. 60 * revs/sec = rpm.

      Don't know how much math you know, so there it is.

      Steve
      80 XS1100G Standard - YammerHammer
      73 Yamaha DT3 - DirtyHairy
      62 Norton Atlas - AgileFragile (Dunstalled) waiting reassembly
      Norton Electra - future restore
      CZ 400 MX'er
      68 Ducati Scrambler
      RC Planes and Helis

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      • #4
        Bike's 27 miles from the scope :-)

        I did get a schmitt trigger hooked up the other day to the pickup coil output - and it works. But, I doubt it will work if I slow the rpm's down to cranking speed. I think the wave form will be to weak to trigger the schmitt trigger.

        Looking to amplify the signal now - just trying to make it as easy and painless as possible.

        Luckily I got a whole bunch of circuit boards from a client of mine filled up with all kinds of goodies!!

        Dan
        Home of ENIAC

        Kinda like a MANIAC with 2 letters difference & a computer on board

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        • #5
          On that note, anyone know of a device to amplify and create a nice square wave, all in one package, with minimum # of pins for a tiny outlay of $$$?

          :-)

          Dan
          Home of ENIAC

          Kinda like a MANIAC with 2 letters difference & a computer on board

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          • #6
            555 timer circuit is exactly what you're looking for, I believe.



            Easy to use, requires a very small footprint circuit to drive it. Very reliable, too. Could be encased in epoxy and last forever.

            100mA output, I believe. I'd bet there are higher powered versions, too. This thing's been around forever.
            80 XS1100SG
            81 XS400SH

            Some men miss opportunity because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work. - Thomas Edison

            A Few Animations I've Made

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            • #7
              I'm not sure this would work, but you could loop the signal through a op amp ( quad if needed) and boost it that way. Might get noise though.

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              • #8
                Cranking RPM?

                If you still need cranking rpm, I'll bring home my tacks from work and find out. (got a remote digital and a neat little tack that you can just press against a shaft)


                mro

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                • #9
                  Look into a zero crossing detector, usually built with a comparator, but can be done with an opamp, LM358 for single voltage automotive type apps.

                  Steve
                  80 XS1100G Standard - YammerHammer
                  73 Yamaha DT3 - DirtyHairy
                  62 Norton Atlas - AgileFragile (Dunstalled) waiting reassembly
                  Norton Electra - future restore
                  CZ 400 MX'er
                  68 Ducati Scrambler
                  RC Planes and Helis

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                  • #10
                    Yes, if you can bring home your tach and get the info that would be great.

                    I'll check into the circuits you guys metioned.

                    I just picked up a gear reduced dc motor today from work, so hopefull that will get me close to the cranking rpm.

                    Dan
                    Home of ENIAC

                    Kinda like a MANIAC with 2 letters difference & a computer on board

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                    • #11
                      Looking further, this seems to have the best description of how to make a Astable Oscillator (Square Wave Generator). Really descriptive.

                      http://www.kpsec.freeuk.com/555timer.htm#astable
                      80 XS1100SG
                      81 XS400SH

                      Some men miss opportunity because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work. - Thomas Edison

                      A Few Animations I've Made

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                      • #12
                        ttt
                        Home of ENIAC

                        Kinda like a MANIAC with 2 letters difference & a computer on board

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                        • #13
                          Sorry
                          forgot to check cranky rpm
                          try to remember tomorrow and post when I get home

                          wrote myself a note

                          mro

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                          • #14
                            Cranking RPM

                            190 to 200 rpm

                            Don't know if my 80G is a good overall sample for the XSs.
                            Nothing to compare to yet.
                            Just under 17K miles and no problem starting.

                            mro

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