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  • thumper7641
    New
    • Aug 2025
    • 9
    • Alberta Canada

    #1

    Hey folks , first post

    Picked up a 82 xj1100 is in nice shape , painted etc , I decided to scope the tank before running and spotted some small sections of rust , so I'm going to vinegar flush before fuel , anyway ,to the point , while I had the seat off , noticed this white with red stripe wire connected to a blue , but is not connected to anything , is capped off , My question , anyone with knowledge of what that white / red stripe wire would normally be connected to ?
  • DEEBS11
    XS-XJ Guru
    • Feb 2023
    • 1647
    • Connecticut

    #2
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    • DEEBS11
      XS-XJ Guru
      • Feb 2023
      • 1647
      • Connecticut

      #3
      That white wire with red strip looks like an old battery sensor wire. I have hooked 12VDC to those to shut off the idiot light on the dash.


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      • thumper7641
        New
        • Aug 2025
        • 9
        • Alberta Canada

        #4
        Thank you , I'll make that connection

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        • Radioguylogs
          XS-XJ Guru
          • Nov 2012
          • 2020
          • Presque Isle, MI

          #5
          I remember that folks reported using a 2k resistor to ground to make the battery dash light go out on '82 XJ's.
          -Mike
          _________
          '79 XS1100SF 20k miles
          '80 XS1100SG 44k miles
          '81 XS1100H Venturer 35k miles
          '79 XS750SF 17k miles
          '85 Honda V65 Magna ~7k miles
          '84 Honda V65 Magna 48k miles (parts bike)
          '86 Yamaha VMAX 9k miles

          Previous: '68 Motoguzzi 600cc + '79 XS750SF 22k miles +'84 Honda V65

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          • thumper7641
            New
            • Aug 2025
            • 9
            • Alberta Canada

            #6
            I remember that folks reported using a 2k resistor to ground to make the battery dash light go out on '82 XJ's . is that a 2k resistor on that white / red wire?

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            • Radioguylogs
              XS-XJ Guru
              • Nov 2012
              • 2020
              • Presque Isle, MI

              #7
              Originally posted by thumper7641
              is that a 2k resistor on that white / red wire?
              There is a connection that went to an electrolyte sensor in the battery. It is just one wire. I don't know what color it is. I can find out if you are not sure.

              -Mike
              _________
              '79 XS1100SF 20k miles
              '80 XS1100SG 44k miles
              '81 XS1100H Venturer 35k miles
              '79 XS750SF 17k miles
              '85 Honda V65 Magna ~7k miles
              '84 Honda V65 Magna 48k miles (parts bike)
              '86 Yamaha VMAX 9k miles

              Previous: '68 Motoguzzi 600cc + '79 XS750SF 22k miles +'84 Honda V65

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              • DEEBS11
                XS-XJ Guru
                • Feb 2023
                • 1647
                • Connecticut

                #8
                That sensor is in direct contact with the electrolyte which is +6DC. I have never had to use a resistor so that's interesting to me. BTW a 2K resistor band color is red_black_red with a gold stripe for tolerance.


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                • Radioguylogs
                  XS-XJ Guru
                  • Nov 2012
                  • 2020
                  • Presque Isle, MI

                  #9
                  I researched the issue for my brother-in-law and found the 2k resistor solution on this forum. He used the resistor and it worked for him.

                  Note:I made a mistake...the resistor goes to 12v, not ground.

                  Look here, posts #12 and #13:





                  Last edited by Radioguylogs; 08-27-2025, 08:26 AM.
                  -Mike
                  _________
                  '79 XS1100SF 20k miles
                  '80 XS1100SG 44k miles
                  '81 XS1100H Venturer 35k miles
                  '79 XS750SF 17k miles
                  '85 Honda V65 Magna ~7k miles
                  '84 Honda V65 Magna 48k miles (parts bike)
                  '86 Yamaha VMAX 9k miles

                  Previous: '68 Motoguzzi 600cc + '79 XS750SF 22k miles +'84 Honda V65

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                  • DEEBS11
                    XS-XJ Guru
                    • Feb 2023
                    • 1647
                    • Connecticut

                    #10
                    Mike, I have made this modification to a few 80's bikes. I hooked up the wire to switched (with the key on) +12 volts and it clears the alert. Perhaps the resistor thought was to slow the current to the circuit. I really don't think it's needed as I have examined the original sensors which made direct contact with the electrolyte (+12VCD). However, here are some pictures of replacement units. They all have a resistor to limit current. Huh.

                    Or, I have also just removed the bulb in the idiot light. That works too on an older non Liquid Crystal Display.


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                    • DEEBS11
                      XS-XJ Guru
                      • Feb 2023
                      • 1647
                      • Connecticut

                      #11
                      Here is the actual XJ1100 part. No resistor evident. If someone has this part, could you measure the wire to the tip of the sensor with an ohm meter? I'll bet it's zero ohms.


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                      • DEEBS11
                        XS-XJ Guru
                        • Feb 2023
                        • 1647
                        • Connecticut

                        #12
                        These are still available to the very rich.


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                        • Radioguylogs
                          XS-XJ Guru
                          • Nov 2012
                          • 2020
                          • Presque Isle, MI

                          #13
                          Deebs, I love your 'inquiing mind' approach to issues - I can relate.

                          Now we have to figure out how this system is supposed to work.

                          The sensor fits into one of the battery cells. I don't know which cell, but a post on xjforever says it's in the 3rd cell from (+) side of the battery, and it measures ~6V to either battery post when immersed in the electrolyte.However, the post doesn't confirm which xj bike they are referencing.

                          I can't find the circuit diagram anywhere yet. Supposedly, the Hayes manual has some info.

                          I found some more references to the 2k resistor, and one post might be the source of the 2k theory:

                          https://xjbikes.com/forums/threads/battery-sensor-on-xj1100-problem.35017/

                          https://xjbikes.com/forums/threads/h...515/#post-3228

                          We know the 2k resistor works because a lot of people have done it, but I am not convinced the orginal thinking makes sense unless there is a better explanantion.

                          It's interesting you have no problem connecting directly to +12V. Did you do this on an XJ1100?
                          -Mike
                          _________
                          '79 XS1100SF 20k miles
                          '80 XS1100SG 44k miles
                          '81 XS1100H Venturer 35k miles
                          '79 XS750SF 17k miles
                          '85 Honda V65 Magna ~7k miles
                          '84 Honda V65 Magna 48k miles (parts bike)
                          '86 Yamaha VMAX 9k miles

                          Previous: '68 Motoguzzi 600cc + '79 XS750SF 22k miles +'84 Honda V65

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                          • DEEBS11
                            XS-XJ Guru
                            • Feb 2023
                            • 1647
                            • Connecticut

                            #14
                            Mike, it was not an XJ1100. However, as an example of many bikes I did the modification successfully to, was my 82 XJ650 Turbo. Rode it for a few years like that. Sold it to the kid here. Then he rode it until he bought a (ahem), Harley.

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                            • DEEBS11
                              XS-XJ Guru
                              • Feb 2023
                              • 1647
                              • Connecticut

                              #15
                              This was the part I eliminated on the Turbo battery by hooking the wire directly to +12VDC. and it worked for at least 4 years. After that I lost track of the bike.


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