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  • #31
    The "quick and dirty" (lazy) method I've seen applied successfully is to take the pads out, push the piston out enough to get some channel locks around the outer edge (being careful not to get anywhere close to the actual working surface) and rotating them back and forth a bit, then pressing the piston back in, buttoning it all up and flushing/new fluid. Then again if you go as far as unbolting the caliper there's not *that* much more to just taking the dust seals off, pushing the piston out all the way, cleaning everything up properly maybe even popping some new piston seals on, and do everything "properly."
    Yamahas: 1979 XS1100F
    Past Yamahas: 1978 XS1100E, 1976 XS500C

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    • #32
      Don't forget to clean the spooge hole in the reservoir.
      79 F
      Previously owned: (among others)
      1969 Harley- Davidson Rapido 125 (Aermacchi)
      1967 Suzuki X6 Hustler
      1973 Suzuki TM 125
      1979 XS1100 F
      2005 Kaw. Vulcan VN800
      1991 BMW K75

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      • #33
        Definitely the front brakes as I rolled the bike out my storage unit today and it moved easily but when I squeezed the front brake to stop it from rolling backwards, it got hard to move. A smack of the calipers with a rubber mallet and all was good. Still a bit cold out to fix this issue.
        1980 XS1100 SG
        Inline fuel filters
        New wires in old coils-outer spark plugs
        160 mph speedometer mod
        Kerker Exhaust
        xschop K & N air filter setup
        Dynojet Recalibration kit
        1999 Kawasaki ZRX1100
        1997 Jeep Cherokee 4.5"lift installed

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        • #34
          Originally posted by oldyam80sg View Post
          Definitely the front brakes as I rolled the bike out my storage unit today and it moved easily but when I squeezed the front brake to stop it from rolling backwards, it got hard to move. A smack of the calipers with a rubber mallet and all was good. Still a bit cold out to fix this issue.
          Pete, Have you checked to see if the calipers are centered on the rotors?
          2 - 80 LGs bought one new
          81 LH
          02 FXSTB Nighttrain
          22 FLTRK Road Glide Limited
          Jim

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          • #35
            That I got to do. I will have to look at something else also.
            1980 XS1100 SG
            Inline fuel filters
            New wires in old coils-outer spark plugs
            160 mph speedometer mod
            Kerker Exhaust
            xschop K & N air filter setup
            Dynojet Recalibration kit
            1999 Kawasaki ZRX1100
            1997 Jeep Cherokee 4.5"lift installed

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            • #36
              Originally posted by cajun31 View Post

              Pete, Have you checked to see if the calipers are centered on the rotors?
              Cajun-what is the procedure for doing this? I understand that there is a long bolt that goes into a sleeve and that is how the caliper mounts. There is a nut on top and the caliper straddles the disc.
              1980 XS1100 SG
              Inline fuel filters
              New wires in old coils-outer spark plugs
              160 mph speedometer mod
              Kerker Exhaust
              xschop K & N air filter setup
              Dynojet Recalibration kit
              1999 Kawasaki ZRX1100
              1997 Jeep Cherokee 4.5"lift installed

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              • #37
                Put something under the frame at the front of the engine to lift the front end off the ground. Spin the wheel and look or measure the clearance for both calipers. If they are not the same side to side, loosen the pinch bolts on the bottom of the axle and move the fork tubes to center them. Then tighten everything back up. There was a write-up for adjusting the forks at one time. You start at the bottom, the axle, and work your way up making sure everything is aligned as you do a final tight on the bolts. You do start with all bolts loose about 1/2 to 3/4 turn from tight, IIRC.
                Ray Matteis
                KE6NHG
                XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
                XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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                • #38
                  Ditto what Ray just said. Just wanted to add for others reading this thread and as Brant has corrected my on in the past, centering the calipers only applies to specials. Standards don't need to be centered. I find that if you have a small wooden stick or hammer it can be used as a pry bar to help hold the fork in place while you tighten everything back up. You will find that you wish you had three hands when you adjust them for center. The reason I say used something out of wood is because all of my bike are MNS's and my forks are all painted.
                  2 - 80 LGs bought one new
                  81 LH
                  02 FXSTB Nighttrain
                  22 FLTRK Road Glide Limited
                  Jim

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                  • #39
                    Standards auto center. However, the steel tube in the rubber sleeve must be taken out, cleaned, and re-lubricated with brake grease or the carrier will be frozen. This is the most overlooked part of the caliper on any machine. Very important. When I do this job I always use a new rubber boot.


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                    • #40
                      Just a reminder on where most of the corrosion will be.

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                      • #41
                        I tightened up everything today so I don't forget, and smacked the calipers with a rubber mallet. Bike still moves freely. Still got to examine some things.
                        1980 XS1100 SG
                        Inline fuel filters
                        New wires in old coils-outer spark plugs
                        160 mph speedometer mod
                        Kerker Exhaust
                        xschop K & N air filter setup
                        Dynojet Recalibration kit
                        1999 Kawasaki ZRX1100
                        1997 Jeep Cherokee 4.5"lift installed

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                        • #42
                          OY8, if you ride it at this point make sure you do a simple safety check. After riding for about 20 or so minutes pull over somewhere safe and lightly touch each of the three brake rotors with your fingers. A good caliper rotor will be slightly warm to the touch. A bad caliper rotor will be blazing hot. The heat of brake friction will make a sticking caliper grab even worse than when it's at ambient temperature.

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                          • #43
                            If you touch a HOT rotor with your finger it will fry your finger. AMHIK. Maybe put some water on your finger and fling it on the rotor first. If it doesn't sizzle you could touch it with your finger.
                            79 F full cruiser, stainless brake lines, spade fuses, Accel coils, modded air box w/larger velocity stacks, 750 FD.
                            79 SF parts bike.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by oldyam80sg View Post
                              I tightened up everything today so I don't forget, and smacked the calipers with a rubber mallet. Bike still moves freely. Still got to examine some things.
                              Pete, I know your setup is not as good as others concerning working on the bike but it is still going to be better for you to go through those calipers. The pads are going to drag and as Deebs pointed out you will suffer in MPGs and you run the chance of warping your rotors.
                              2 - 80 LGs bought one new
                              81 LH
                              02 FXSTB Nighttrain
                              22 FLTRK Road Glide Limited
                              Jim

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                              • #45
                                Just did my fronts due to poor braking at 2024 VYR. Found all the problems described with plenty of corrosion under the boots and seals. Same with the master cylinder. New stainless pucks with one still hard to push in- install, there was still corroded alloy under the new seal where you couldn't see but the seal pick worked it clean with scotch bright.
                                I recommend the above kit with new stainless pucks as I have not found any that are not pitted after 40 years. With the kit from BrakeCrafters.com, the only problem I had was the bleeders are short for the xs1100 standard calipers. Running DOT 5 silicone now as the system was spotless
                                1967 Bultaco Metralla 250
                                RD125
                                1973 CT3 175
                                78 XS1100E
                                80 XS850SG

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